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The Nepal Digest Tuesday 14 November 95: Ashoj 2 2052 BS Volume 44 Issue 8

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********************************************************************** Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 13:19:56 EST To: "Rajpal J. Singh" <a10rjs1@cs.niu.edu> Subject: Woman's View

Source: Chautari (A student publication in NYC)

               WOMEN'S VIEW
               ============
                         - Ojaswi Josse
                           (A Senior studying Political Science)

     The recent U.N. Women's Conference in Bejing has brought a much needed attention to the abuse faced by women world wide. As we all know, this conference was not without controversy. Many were concerned if China would be able to host such a conference given her record on human rights. It comforts me to know that Nepal also took part in the convention. Hillary Clinton's visit to Nepal for the purpose of promoting women's right cannot be just ignored and disregarded as just another visit. True, many changes have come about after the democracy, but Nepal with the rest of the world needs to be actively involved in the fight for women's right.
     More than two quarter of the world's women population resides in the Asian continent. The abuses such as forced sterilization and the like faced by these women are rampant. Various organizations around the world have been working hard to protect women's rights around the globe. In fact one such organization based in New York called CARASA declared:"No category of women - poor, young, disabled - should be excluded from reproductive freedom. To really have that freedom, we require: abortion services for all women, regardless of income; safe, well designed birth control; sex education in the schools; good and accessible pre and post natal and maternal health care; and the right to conduct our sex lives as we wish and with dignity."
     When we examine bride-battering and burning in India, forced veiling in Iran, the killing of baby girls in China, institutionalized prostitution in Thailand, the exportation of Filipino women for cheap labor, abduction of young Nepalese girls for prostitution in India (as vividly portrayed in the movie
"Salaam Bombay"), and sterilization of Native American and minority women in the U.S., we see the helplessness and erosion of human dignity that plagues the half of the world population. Issues in developed countries may cover a wide spectrum from equality in employment opportunities and salary, to debates over child care, maternity leave and fertility choices.
     We Nepalese must ask ourselves how can we lead the world as a champion on women's rights. We need to ask ourselves how can we help Nepalese women. I find the following to be the most challenging fight for women.
     The fight must start from each one of us, individually. Women should no longer have to face stereotypes by social class, region, cast and ethnicity. Nepal still stresses the typical traditional housewife view of women. It should abandon this view and find opportunity for women in industry, business and politics. It still stresses domesticity, passivity and other stereotypical feminine traits. Like many other nations around the globe, women make half of the population in Nepal. They can no longer be looked on as domestic and passive beings.
     If Nepal is to be economically successful in the 21st century, it must open it doors to women and provide equal opportunity for them. Besides the obvious stereotypes, they shouldn't be discriminated, socially restricted, judged mentally inferior, and most of all, should be allowed to determine their own destiny.
     Finally, I believe in the near future, women's issues will affect the trend of politics and the choice of candidates, around the world and in Nepal tremendously. No woman minister resides in our ministry cabinet of 26 ministers, enormously lacking much needed representation for Nepalese women. The traditional groups who fear changes, and feel safe with the status quo will definitely put a stiff fight to resist women's role in politics and policies that favor women's self-determination. In private, the relationship between men and women will reflect these changes, and the struggle for equality will affect traditional roles and expectations.
     I cannot close this article without admitting sadly that often, women's worst enemies can be other women who have succumbed to traditional power structures and who exploit it to their advantage. An education that nourishes solidarity and teaches women to cooperate and to struggle together is therefore very important. With this we should stress and ask our politicians, what has Nepal done to ensure women's rights? What steps have they taken to integrate women into the mainstream of socio-economic structure of Nepalese society? And most importantly, what will be the fate of Nepalese women if we continue on this track? Can we ever be a fair and progressive society when half of our polpulation is oppressed, abused, deprived and ignored?

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*************************************************************** Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 17:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Nuru Lama <nurulama@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - November 12, 1995 (30 Kartik 2052 BkSm) To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>
                
                        Jindagi, Yo Jindagi!!

        Life has been subject to various interpretations, a result of attempts to construct a 'meaningful meaning' to our existence. After all, it is your
'jindagi!' Whether our existence is a 'tale told by a fool, signifying nothing' or of some import in the grand scheme of nature, I do not claim to know. I leave this question to you. Here, I would just like to discuss the implications of two major interpretations of life. First, there is the 'fixed' notion of life, as is generally believed in Nepal. (Bhagya ma nalekhe pachi ke garne!) According to this notion, life is pre-defined, pre-destined. Life is seen as a water droplet that flows down a river from the mountain of birth to the ocean of death. The droplet has no choice but to follow the course defined by the banks of the river. The scenes along the river banks can be viewed as the experiences that one gathers on his/her way down the river of life. The second notion is the modernist view that understands life as an eagle on a mountain top that will fly into the vastness of the sky, in any direction it wishes. The eagle decides on its course. It is not pre-determined. This notion assumes the freedom of life to create its own story. Let's call this the
'free' interpretation.

        How does the 'fixed' interpretation compare to the 'free' interpretation? The former concept may be frustrating and anti-progressive because of its rigidities. It subordinates the 'I' in you from advancing into unknown frontiers. The river confines you within the banks. The world is defined to you. You cannot define it. However, the beauty of the 'fixed' notion is that life is structured. A meaning is given to you a priori. The world is not hazy and chaotic. The mind is not a restless child but a calm in the cosmos.
        
        How about the 'free' interpretation? Within the realm of this notion, you are a 'free' man. The 'I' in you leaps out to explore the frontiers. You make your own story. You receive the fruits of your labor. You define the world. (karma usto hoina, buddhi usto bhanana!) The freedom inherent helps you realize your potentialities. However, all this comes at a cost. The vastness of the sky can be intimidating to the eagle. Vastness is but void. Without any delineation, you feel as if you are flying in empty space. Does emptiness have any meaning? Unlike in the
'fixed' interpretation, under this notion, life is amorphous. You define it yourself. But, can you trust your definition? You try, you compete. If you fail, you may find yourself falling into a bottomless pit. On the other hand, in the 'fixed' notion, you always have your 'bhagya' to fall back upon. Your 'bhagya' makes you feel secure. Under the 'free' interpretation, you face too many choices. The mind is no more the calm in the cosmos. It becomes the restless child.
        Would you want to be a droplet in the river or the eagle on the mountain top? You decide!
                                                        - Nuru Lama

********************************************************** To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: The Ranas Date: Mon, 13 Nov 95 9:32:07 EST

Cross-posted from SCN:
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I am curious to know the opinions of Nepalis on the net about the following:

How much political influence do the Ranas now have in Nepal? Do the categories of A- B- and C-Ranas now have the significance they did thirty or forty years ago?

How would you describe the relationship between the various ethnic groups in Nepal?

Have the foreign NGOs working in Nepal improved conditions for ordinary Nepalis?

I realise that these are very broad questions that cannot be answered in a few lines, but all opinions are of interest to me. If you would prefer to discuss any of these matters privately rather than in this group, please email me.

Denis Wright
 :: Armidale NSW AUSTRALIA 2351 ::::::::::::: fax +61 67 733520 ::
 :::::::::: http://www.une.edu.au/~arts/History/daw.htm ::::::::::::

******************************************* From: Rajesh Shrestha <rshresth@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: >Arun III update with comments To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 09:54:12 -0500 (EST)

Mahesh Ghimire <umghimir> writes:
>Yes I agree. Jumping into an investment to save sunken cost will not be right.
>I used to be sceptical about the mega-project in the beginning.But now I think
>we could really do with few large projects even if it is going to have some
>ecological and other implications.The problem with Arun cancelation is that we
>are not ready with alternative projects. The alternatives given by ITDG is not
>very covincing to me as it will take hundreds of years to establish an
>industrial base. our planners shortsightedness is also to be blamed equally.

You *now* think it's fine having few large projects even if it's going to have
*SOME* ecological and *OTHER* implications? That's quite a turnaround - I'd be interested to know how that happened. I am assuming you have considered the implications concerning World Bank conditionalities and loan terms. Learning about them caused a turnaround in me - in the direction opposite to yours.

It appears that you haven't come across the offered alternatives that I did. I have never heard of any alternative project requiring hundreds of years worth of industrial base! Which alternative project are you talking about exactly?
>From what I remember, there are seven smaller-scale alternative projects
at this point - one of them (Kali-Gandaki?) is due around the same time Arun III would have been. Knowledgeable electrical engineers here could verify/ correct me on that.

>No doubt the micros and the minis are going to be very important in our quest
>for enrgy but they alone going to fulfil all our energy demands is doubtful.
>Many country are enjoying the fruits of few mega projects in the begining of
>their industrialization. China's superdam across the Yangzi river though
>controversial will be instrumntal in shaping their industrial empire. Indias
>Bakhra dam also build a very important infrastructure base for them. I agrre
>that these countries had more project management experience and large internal
>re'urse to offset effects of these projects but in this new era of global
>economy the self reliancy is somewhat obsolete concept.Now you have to utilize
>what you have and import what you don't. If India had waited for its companys
>to produce its own computers before going into software exporting they wuldn't
>have become an upcoming force in the software development.

You seem to imply that being opposed to Arun III would mean opposition to all large projects. We are talking about only Arun III in particular. We definitely need large projects but not on the same *WB terms* as was Arun III.

Let's not digress, this is a debate on Arun III, not whether large projects are important. I fail to see any connection between being opposed to Arun III and self reliancy "in this new era of globay economy."

>Nepal is no longer a small country though it is one of the poorest and I feel
>sooner we get out of this 'our poor small country' concept the better. 20
>million strong population is not small. We can not feed ourselves by selling
>the Shangrila concept to the west in the next century. There will always be
>people throwing some alms to us & telling us how wnderful we are just the way
>we are. We should really be careful if that means wonderful as a museum or
>wild-life park.

>Arun or no Arun we can only develop if we have will and confidence to do so.We
>must start beleiving in ourselves.

Now that you've pushed yourself way off tangentially, we might as well talk about it.

What is the "our poor small country concept"? Do all Nepalis suffer from the so-called concept?

I can sort of understand what you are trying to convey here, but what emotions! If we want to make any progress, we need to present sensible solid facts - pouring out heaps of emotions takes us nowhere. We need to debate, exchange ideas and solve one issue at a time. Yes, I agree, we can move forward if only we have the will and confidence to do so. But, how do we build confidence? By taking one step at a time - in the right direction.

Rajesh

******************************************************* From: Rajesh Shrestha <rshresth@husc.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:53:01 -0500 (EST) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: News 11/9/1995

Cross-posted from SCN:
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: November 8, 1995, Wednesday, BC cycle

: HEADLINE: Nepal police grill newspaper staff
: BODY:
: .... The front page of the weekly Sunday
: Dispatch published a photograph of Nepal's King and Queen with the caption
: ''this is fertile ground for pickpockets.'' Police Tuesday questioned Govind
: ....

Does that imply that the King and Queen are good people to pickpocket or that the King and Queen are pickpockets?

If it is the latter, then it's not news to me.

-R.R.

******************************************************* From: Mathew Freedman To: The Nepal Digest

Subject: Nepal rescuers find miraculous survivor, toll 42 Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 8:50:07 PST
                    
         KATHMANDU, Nepal (Reuter) - A teenage boy given up for dead in an avalanche survived a 24-hour ordeal and was pulled from deep snow Sunday, safe except for frostbite, Nepali rescue officials said.
         The rescue of 17-year-old Deepak Nepali against all the odds made the death toll in weekend avalanches in the Himalayan kingdom 42, down from an earlier announced 43.
         A total of 17 foreigners are known to have died -- 13 Japanese trekkers killed by Saturday's avalanche and an Irish woman, two Canadians and a German buried in a landslide.
         Rescuers Sunday helped some 115 foreign trekkers from a snow-ravaged valley near Mount Everest, the world's tallest mountain.
         ``Some of the rescued were in shoulder-deep snow,'' said Bikash J.B. Rana, a Nepal Airways helicopter pilot who took part.
         ``Most are suffering from snow blindness, frostbite and hunger,'' Rana said. ``Many of them would have died had rescuers not reached them today.''
         The avalanche in which the 13 Japanese died Saturday was also believed to have killed 13 Nepalis. But Deepak managed to survive by perching between two rocks in four-foot deep snow, rescue officials said.
         The Japanese, their Sherpa guides and porters were buried in the snow as they slept in a camp at Pangka, some 170 miles northeast of Kathmandu about 1 a.m. Saturday.
         The Japanese were trekking their way to the Gokyo Valley, the popular hiking area 12 miles southwest of Everest.
         Another 17 people were killed when landslides caused by continuous rains crushed houses and trekkers' lodges in Manang and Panchathar districts.
         The four foreigners who died in Manang district in mid-western Nepal were a Canadian named Alan Sordi, another Canadian, an unidentified German and an Irish women named only as Mary Josephine, the Home (Interior) Ministry said.
         Tourism officials said there could be up to 500 foreigners in the Everest region. More trekkers may have been stranded in Taplejung district, east of Everest, rescue officials said.
         Rescuers armed with special digging equipment rushed to a remote region near the 29,028 foot peak.
         The bodies of five Japanese and three Nepalis were pulled out, but rescue work was hampered by diffficult conditions.
         Food packets, medicines and clothes were dropped from helicopters in the Gokyo Valley area.
         Saturday's avalanche was the worst disaster to strike a trekking or mountaineering expedition in Nepal, whose towering peaks and pristine valleys attract about 65,000 foreign hikers and climbers each year.

************************************************** Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 16:31:52 -0500 From: Deependra Bhattarai <devaka@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> To: nepal@cs.niu.edu

Prakash Poudel,

Where are you? I wrote a letter to in Nrbraska but I did not get your answer. If you are reading this message, can you send me a message , I need to talk to you. My e-mail address is

devaka@bsu-cs.bsu.edu

If anybody knows him and see him, could you please tell him about this message.
  Deependra Bhattarai Shively Hall, Box #5 Mncie ,IN-47306

********************************************** From: Rajesh Shrestha <rshresth@husc.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 11:11:23 -0500 (EST) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Arun III Update

Cross-posted from SCN:
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The reason for the collapse of the Arun III project is not yet all, because of Arun Concerned Group. The reason behind it is of course the political and the govt. 's (at tht time) unability to convince the main donors that its behaving in their will. If any guys would have watched the NTV program on interview, prabachan by our former govt.'s ministers you would realize that why the project had to be cancelled. At one time, Bamdev Gautam, told "We will do ......, whether the law permit or not.". They were portraying that the country was heading for communism and the budget they gave were all showing that Nepal was going to be a communist country ruled by non-sense peoples. That is the reason for the collapse of the project. Of course, such groups are some dekhaune dant , but, not the reality.

Meantime, if we stop any project road or dam then are we going to use our water resources. Small project are more local and the industrail deman can never be fulfilled. The total transfer loss and land required for the integration of the electricity will be more than with one big project. If france can blast atomic bomb and destroy the environment, why should we be so much worried about worlds environment? How much percentage of the degradation of worlds environment is contributed from Nepal's such project? Is it worth for nepal to talk on such fancy word? No not at all. First job for nepal and nepali is to provide minumum need (infrastructure) and then talk such fancy word environment.

What I understand from the objective of such activists , is they are using such fancy words as a "parachute", to land into a key position in the govt. or else where. If they don't do such things , they may not have any other
"GUDI" to go ahead. The only best way to such peoples is to harasse them like China do. FTO.

They should realize that peoples fortune will be turned if such project succeed. They will have road, electrcity, education and what not? How many peoples die because of lack of proper hospital, food, education? Our life expectancy is below 60 years, they should realize that we will better only if we have enough electricty
 and transportation system, not because we travel Washington or have workshop in Blue star. You guys should relax and think, don't be so crazy for position adn popularity in this fancy env. community because you were able to collapse the heart of Nepal 's development. Try to do something worth to Nepal and Nepali. But, you guys will continue until you find lux. position in the govt, ....................

Gyaneswor Pokharel Department of Civil Engineering Nagoya University Nagoya-464-01 Japan

********************************************************* From: Rajesh Shrestha <rshresth@husc.harvard.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 11:17:30 -0500 (EST) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Avalanche Kills Many In Nepal

Cross-posted from clari.world.asia.south:
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        KATMANDU, Nepal (AP) -- At least 26 people were feared dead Saturday after a strong avalanche struck their camp near Mount Everest.
        Thirteen Japanese trekkers and 13 Nepalese, including 11 guides, were at the camp in the village of Panga on Friday night when the avalanche hit, said Takashi Miyahara of the Trans-Himalayan Trekking Company, which conducted the trekkers' group.
        The group was returning from the 17,655-foot high Gokyo peak, about 11 miles southwest of Everest, the world's highest peak.
        Rescuers reached the camping site on Saturday using a helicopter. ``The area was completely covered by snow. We could only see rooftops of the huts where the trekkers were staying,'' Miyahara said.

********************************************************************** From: Shangpa Rinpohe <trinle88@singnet.com.sg> To: "'nepal@cs.niu.edu'" <nepal@cs.niu.edu> Subject: Buying Computer Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 00:39:44 +-800

        Hi friends!

I am a Buddhist teacher station in Singapore. I need to buy few set of Computer for My temple's school in Nepal. Can anyone kindly tell me that If I buy it from Singapore, What is the prossece that I need to prepare for custom.

Do I need to pay heavy tex? Is it cheaper to buy in nepal ?.

Please unswer me Shangpa Rinpoche My e-mail trinle88@singnet.com.sg

********************************************************** Date: 03 Nov 1995 15:29:17 EST To: <nepal-request@cs.niu.edu> From: Gautam Raj Manandhar <GRM@eqe.mhs.compuserve.com> Subject: e-mail address for RONAST

To TND Readers:

I am looking for the e-mail address for RONAST in Kathmandu. Can some one please post it on the TND.

Gautam
 
***************************************** Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 20:35:34 GMT To: The Editor <nepal-request@cs.niu.edu> From: G P Sapkota <bs5gps@bath.ac.uk> Subject: Friends out of contact

Dear Editor,

I would be glad if you published this message for me.

Diwas Singh K.C., who is an undergraduate at Brown University, has been out of contact for several days. The emails that I have sent have been sent successfully since I have not been notified of any failure by the network. One possibility is that he may be out for some kind of holidays with a friend of his. If any of the readers of TND happen to his adress or anything about him please forward the message to my email. Any kind of help would be greatly appreciated.

Similarly, if any of you happen to know anything about Rajesh Raj Pandey, who is supposed to be in Virginia Tech., please let me know.

I have got an important messages for both of the above friends.

I do not have the contact adress of Yalamber Tamot, who is supposed to be at the Colorado Institute of Art. Since he left Nepal on the 24th of September, I have not been able to contact him. If any of the readers of TND know anything about him, please do let me know. I am desparate to find about him. Your help would be highly praiseworthy.

Thanking you for the same, Gopal Prasad Sapkota

********************************************************************** Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 14:22:45 -0500 (EST) From: atuladhar@vax.clarku.edu Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - November 12, 1995 (30 Kartik 2052 BkSm) To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>

Grade Point Average
++++++++++++++++++++++

I would like to congratulate Puspa Joshi on a very insightful essay on the inadequacies of GPA as an absolute measure of a student's academic achievment and performance.

My own experience verifies her contentions. When I was in Virginia Tech for instance, I used to work really hard to understand the slippery concepts of statistics and with joy of discovery I would finally solve the main statistical conceptual problems given in weekly homeworks. When I used to get my grades back, i used to get 8.5, 9.0, or 9.5 out of 10.0 and I was brimfull of pride coming from a Nepali university where D.K.T.
(Dil kamal Tuladhar) of Biology department at Amrit Science College used to give a highest grade of 65 out of 100. When I demanded what was inadequate that I did not 100/100, her stupedying answer was: "Why do you need 100? If you get 100 in the internal assessments, you will not study hard forthe finals, as it is, you are the top, but do not let that go into your head." Quite a different philosophy from US, where
"passing mark" is 70%. Anyway, getting back to Virginia TEch, my grappling with statistical conceptual ogres gave me tremendous confidence in the subject and that was not marred by getting a minus 0.25 here and a minus 0.25 there on mostly arithmentic oversights. My confidence was even boosted by the small army of 8-10 stat class maters I tutored throughut the course. since I took plagiarism seriously, I never looked in their grades oar asked them, but after 3 semesters of takig the same courses in succession, it is hard not to come up with a discussion of each other's grades. While I had great pride in progressing from B to B+ to A-, I was surprised to see my some of my real thickheaded friends whome I tutored till the third semester get A and A-, I wondered why.

It was then in then at the end of third semester that I was let in old questions and worked ut answers some of them had access througgh their linkage to TAs that I found that 80-90% of the questions were repeated so all the so-called slower friends put in an honest effort trying to grasp the statistics in tutorials with me and then going to these answer-sheets to cut the correct final answers and with 60 students in the class and weekly homeworks it was the student TA who did a fast grading, not the professors.

Yes, it is possible to be clever and get high grades without really learning a lot or equivalent amount.

This brings me to a more fundamental issues of grades vs education the higher one goes up i the educational ladder. Most graduates in thier MA and Phd programs invariably come face to face with the situation where one can re-articulate what the professor wants to hear vs what you think is the different picture and getting A+ for being able to accurately guess what the professor wants to read sets in the process of disciplining one's creativity and originality in set grooves that make educated person great servants and lousy leaders or independent thinkers.

So in the cohorts of A students you can find the truly original and the truly unoriginal smart alecks too. Many a times the difference between an A- and A+ student may be purely a matter of rebellious originality which the instructor disagrees with but cannot pretent to ignore.

I wonder how many have similar experience here Amulya

From: atuladhar@vax.clarku.edu Subject: A bit of news for a few friends of Nepal (fwd)

Dear Don:

I have forwarded this to Nepal digest, I heard the news on TV yesterday, it must be in the on-line Kathmandu Post daily, do u see that regularly? a nm
---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 14:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Don Messerschmidt <damesser@pacifier.com> Subject: A bit of news for a few friends of Nepal

Greetings -- Just a note to repeat the following newsjust faxed to me from Nepal this morning:

13 JAPANESE BURIED IN AVALANCHE: "Kathmandu, Nov 11 (RSS) - Thirteen Japanese out of a group of 26 trekkers from various countries died in an avalanche in the Khumbu region.
   Some Nepalese Sherpas and foreigners are also reported to have sustained injuries in the mishap that took place at about 1:00 pm today.
   Details of the incident are awaited.
   Assistant Chief District Officer of Solukhumbu District Himanath Dawadi says the incident took place at Gokya at an altitude of 16,000 ft and a four days' trek from Syangboche.
   A rescue team from the army and police has not been able to reach the spot as of this evening due to continuous snowfall and remoteness, Dawadi told RSS over the telephone.
   Meanwhil, another group of 19 foreigners trekking in the Khumbu region has been flown to safety by helicopter."

================================ LANDSLIDE CAUSES HUGE LOSS OF LIFE AND PROPERTY IN MANANG -- "Kathmandu, Nov 11 (RSS)" ... a long article, briefly summarized:
-- five people killed and the homes of eight families swept away in Bagarchap, Manang District (21 km from Chame, Manang District Hq (on the main trekking trail). Three of the five are foreigners, yet to be identified (with more feared to be buried in the debris). ... then is says that in an update four foreigners and four Nepalese killed. Nepalese: Chewa Tamang of Dolkha Barang, Shyam Tamang and Sensang of Dolakha Lamabagar, and Bal Bdr Gharti of Myagdi. Of the foreigners, one identified as Alan Sordi, a Canadian national.
... also a family killed in a slide in Panchthar District... Another five killed in the same district...
   Relief materials and teams on their way, etc etc.

Amulya's question:

Can anybody tell me if the Tamangs are mostly Buddhists, Animists, or Hindus? I am curious of the following news item of Tamangs professing Buddhist faith. I have believed in the Hindu propaganda that the only Buddhists of Nepal was a subsection of the valley Newars.

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Source: KTM Post LOCAL NEWS
   
  BUDDHAS IDOL INSTALLED
   
   BIRATNAGAR, Nov 11 (RSS) - An idol of Lord Buddha was installed at
   Nepal Buddhist Monastery in ward No. 2, Urlabari village development
   committee, Morang district amidst a function held here on recently.
   
   The idol made available by the Sathirakoses Nagopradipa Foundation at
   the initiative of INEB Nepal and Nepal Tamang Dhedung (Association) on
   the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the coronation of His Majesty
   King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand, measures 6 feet in height, 5 feet
   in length and 3 feet wide and weighs 290 kilograms. The cast iron idol
   was made of eight metals.
   
   A mammoth rally, prior to the installation of the idol, went round
   Urlabari town and later returned to the monastery to offer ritual
   prayers to Lord Buddha.
   
   On the occasion, chief guest at the function Khembo Ghese Lama and
   Jikme Dorje Moktan Tamang thanked all concerned for providing the
   Buddha as a gift and said the full moon of Kartik was the day on which
   Lord Buddha descended from the heaven to teach thefaith.
   
   General secretary of Nepal Tamang Dhedung central committee Ramesh
   Kumar Tamang referred to the Triratna (triple jewel) teachings of Lord
   Buddha.
   
   Chairman of Nepal Buddhist Monastery Parasuram Tamang presided over
   the function.
   
   Nepal Tamang Dhedung cultural committee on the occasion presented
   various cultural dances.
   
     _________________________________________________________________
  MINISTERS ANSWER TO MPS QUERIES
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 11 (RSS) - Minister for Land Reforms and Management
   Buddhiman Tamang answered various questions raised by MPs at the House
   of Representatives Friday.
   
   In response to a question raised by Prem Singh Dhami on behalf of
   CPN-UML MP Ganga Lal Tuladhar, Minister Tamang said that registration
   of Guthi land in the names of the tenants was going on in Dhading
   district and the land value was being determined according to a
   decision by HMG.
   
   Replying to another question by MP Tuladhar, he said, a clear policy
   will be brought out in the near future on a solution to the problem of
   landless settlers after studying the report of the relevant commission
   and the work done by the previous two governments. 'The policy will
   reflect the feelings of the peoples representatives, he further said.
   
   Answering a query from Kashiram Tharu of CPN-UML Tamang said a special
   programme for training and skill development is being included for
   resolution of the problem of Kamaiya bonded labour and landless
   settlers.
   
   Replying to a question from CPN-UML MP Binod Kumar Shaha the Minister
   said, Land reforms must not be implemented in haste as this is a
   matter that affects all sections of society. It needs serious study
   and national consensus as it is a very sensitive issue, he said.
   
   Answering a question from Mahendra Dhoj G C of NC, Tamang said a
   branch of the land revenue office can be opened in the eastern part of
   Nawalparasi district in view of the remoteness of that place, the
   available budget, security considerations and infrastructures like
   buildings.
   
   In response to a remark by CPN-UML MP Tul Bahadur Gurung that HMG was
   showing indifference towards the problem of landless settlers, Tamang
   said, this is not true and even budgetary allocations have been made
   in this connection.
   
   Meanwhile, Minister for Local Development Kamal Thapa has expressed
   the determination of the present government to implement
   decentralization and a system of local autonomy. He told this to the
   House of Representatives meeting Friday in response to a question by
   MP Pari Thapa during question hour.
   
   In response to another question by Nepali Congress MP Braja Kishor
   Singh he said, as abolishing the octroi requires amendment in the
   Municipality Act, arrangements have been made to raise a local
   development tax so that the financial sources of the municipalities
   are not affected. In this connection a task force has also been
   constituted.
   
   Thapa said autonomous administration and decentralization were being
   implemented in the VDCs taking the village as the focal point of
   national development. 'Such programmes will be introduced in one VDC
   in each district of the kingdom from this fiscal year, he said while
   responding to a question by Purushottam Poudel of CPN-UML.
   
   Detailed studies are under way to find out whether infrastructures
   were complete for upgrading Kalika VDC of Baglung district into a
   municipality and a car ferry is under construction near Tarkughat
   along the Marsyangdi river,' he said in response to questions by Ram
   Chandra Adhikari of Nepali Congress and Govind Raj Adhikari of
   CPN-UML.

                                 HEADLINE NEWS
   
  NC GRABS 5, UML 4, RPP 2 UPPER HOUSE SEATS
   By a Post Reporter
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 - Elections for the 11 National Assembly seats,
   including one reserved for women, were held at Parliament Secretariat
   Monday with Nepali Congress winning five, UML four and RPP two Upper
   House seats.
   
   While NCs Silupyari (Mulmi) Karmacharya became the winner of the
   womens seat, Prakash Man Singh, Keshar Bahadur Bista, Bhim Bahadur
   Shrestha and Omakar Shrestha were the other NC nominees elected to the
   National Assembly. The voting took place from 8:00 am to 5:00 pm.
   
   On the womens seat, Silupyari Karmacharya secured 103 votes against
   the 97 secured by her UML competitor Sita Poudel. Of the total 202
   voters, 201 exercised their voting rights, Hridayesh Tripathi of Nepal
   Sadbhavana Party abstained from voting.
   
   The UML nominees elected in the Upper House are Keshav Lal Shrestha
   (19 votes) , Sitanandan Raya (19 votes), Subash Chandra Nemwang (19)
   and Shanta Manavi (18).
   
   The highest number of votes was secured by RPP candidate Rabindra Nath
   Sharma (23 votes), whereas another RPP nominee Rajeshwar Devkota stood
   second in the Hierarchy (20 votes).
   
   Sharma and Devkota are RPPs first representatives in the Upper House.
   At lest 18 votes were necessary for a person to be elected in the
   National Assembly.
   
   Altogether 15 candidates were in the fray for the vacant 11 Upper
   House seats , of whom UML nominee Yubaraj Gyawali could not even get a
   single vote.
   
   Bhairav Raj Regmi, an independent candidate with informal support of
   CPN(Masal) received only two votes, while Jaya Ram Basukala of Nepal
   Workers and Peasant Party (NWPP) secured 3 votes.
   
   MPs from NC, RPP, Sadbhavana and NWPP supported NCs woman candidate
   Silupayari Karmacharya. RPP candidates, whose parliamentary strength
   would suffice for the election of only one candidate, received votes
   also from NC and UML. One vote in the womens lot and 4 other were
   declared invalid.
   
   Meanwhile, Parliament secretary general Jeevanlal Satyal gave away the
   National Assembly membership identity cards to the elected MPs this
   evening. The elected members will be sworn in at the Parliament
   Secretariat Tuesday.
     _________________________________________________________________
   
  KHUMBU TRAGEDY 25 MORE BODIES RECOVERED
   By a Post Reporter
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 - Rescuers have recoverd the bodies of 12 Japanese
   trekkers and 13 Nepali Sherpas buried in an avalanche in Gokyo in the
   Khumbu region Sunday.
   
   Seven helicopters operating rescue flights over the last two days have
   airlifted 128 persons, including 56 foreigners and 72 Nepalis to
   safety in Syangboche and Lukla.
   
   Sixteen foreigners, including nine Americans and seven British
   nationals, and 32 Nepalis were transported to safety from Hinku Valley
   to Lukla.
   
   Thirtysix persons, including two British, one Scot, four Australian,
   two Dutch, two New Zealand, two Japanese, two French, three American,
   one Canadian and one Norwegian national have been airlifted from Gokyo
   to Syangboche.
   
   Rescue flights transported 30 persons - 20 Nepalis, one Japanese and
   nine Australians from Gokyo to Lukla. Two German nationals have been
   airlifted from AmaDablam Base camp. None of the airlifted persons have
   suffered injuries,informed an official of the rescue task force set up
   in the capital. People were crawling in the snow. I could see hands
   waving from the snow covered huts, a pilot returning from a flight in
   the Hinku region said.
   
   More than 50 trekkers, including a group of 25 Italian trekkers were
   reportedly in the Gokyo region when the avalanche struck around 1 am
   Saturday, making officials fear that the death toll could mount. No
   one is certain of the number of trekkers in the area. No bodies will
   be brought to the capital before the rescue mission is complete, an
   official said.
     _________________________________________________________________
  IS NATIONAL PLANNING COMMISSION REALLY OBSOLETE?
   By Narayan Wagle
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 - The government today formed the National Planning
   Commission (NPC) which had its origin in central planning. Development
   experts, however, do not see any justification for the existence of
   the commission at a time when privatization and decentralization are
   favoured.
   
   They are of the opinion that the planning machinery, which has been
   developed from the tradition in which everything is done by the
   government will prove to be a burden for the private sector and local
   bodies.
   
   Swiss expert Tony Hegen who has been closely watching the development
   activities of Nepal for the last four decades holds the view that the
   NPC should be cancelled. He is of the opinion that the task of
   developing plans should be entrusted to the lower levels with
   extensive privatization.
   
   The present practice is that the NPC prepares the five-year plan,
   approves annual programmes and allocates budgets for different
   ministries on the basis of the annual programmes. The centre not only
   gives plans and projects to the districts but also appoints employees
   for the project. The role of the government has not been diminished at
   all. Former Finance Secretary Thakur Nath Pant admits that there has
   been centralization in the name of decentralization.
   
   There is no system of the district formulating plans, allocating fund
   for them and the employees becoming responsible to the district
   bodies. The employees are responsible to the minister and the
   secretary. Therefore, decentralization has not been practical, says
   Pant.
   
   The NPC determines not only programmes for the districts but also
   fixes the working procedure. Food for work programme is being carried
   out these days in many districts. The district people are building
   road to earn wheat and rice.
   
   Hegen calls this practice nonsense. It helps people only to survive.
   The meaning of poverty alleviation is to help earn income, he says.
   
   Donor agencies also complain that the decentralization, which is in
   the grip of NPC, is not practical. Local bodies have not been able to
   implement programmes of their interest and demand. The concept of the
   centre has been improved in the lower levels, opines an UNDP expert.
   
   The government has taken the National Planning Commission as a think
   tank which makes available experts service relating to development
   goals and programmes. But NPC has not proved to be an impartial body
   motivated by solely by national interest because any government that
   comes to power forms the commission so as to make it supportive of the
   same government, intellectuals say.
   
   The need for National Planning Commission can be justified at a time
   when the national goal, policy and strategy are prepared by the
   political willpower, says population expert Raghav Dhoj Pant. This
   should be an autonomous and perpetual body which must be able to
   translate the national vision into action no matter whichever
   government comes into power. But the practice is different.
   
   Economists point out the need for drawing the vision of Nepals
   development picture for the period that is to come after 20 or 25
   years. Many of them are unanimous that the concept of five-year plan
   has been outdated.
   
   But many economists including the government side say government plans
   are essential for areas which are outside the sphere of privatization
   and therefore justify the NPC. The former NPC vice-chairman Bharat
   Prasad Dhital says in order to achieve the goals of poverty
   alleviation, plans should not be allowed to be implemented at free
   will, because they will give rise to perversion. The NPC is necessary
   to provide direction, he opines.
   
   Former member-secretary of NPC Gorakshya Bahadur Nhuchhe Pradhan also
   pleads in favour of the NPC for long-term direction and making the
   annual programmes real. At a time when there is coalition government
   the commission is all the more necessary. Since it is composed of the
   experts it can ensure greater national interest than the politicians,
   says former Finance Secretary Pant adding that the commission may
   coordinate in case programmes from different ministries were at
   discord.
   
   Therefore, many people believe that NPC should be removed and the
   Ministry of Finance should be developed as a ministry to look after
   finance and planning as well. But since that ministry will be a super
   one none of the governments has been able to take such a bold
   decision.
   
   Former Finance Secretary Pant feels that such a ministry has not been
   established because a minister often focuses his attention on his own
   constituency and, therefore, there will be personality clash with
   other ministers.
   
   The NPC has been an additional administrative web for the government,
   says Engineer Anil Chitrakar and suggest that planning should be
   decentralized as well. He suggests that specific regional planning
   unit should be established.
   
   Another interesting point is that the now-defunct Administrative
   Reforms Commission, in its report presented two years ago had
   suggested to keep only 18 ministries by amalgamating some and removing
   others. But on the contrary , the number of ministries is growing and
   has now reached 26.
   
   It had also suggested that the NPC should be a small and effective
   body.
     _________________________________________________________________
   Newsline

Amulya's comments: Well it looks like deja vu, the NPC continues to be pork barrel for politically affiliated "intellectuals" instead of being apolitical "national" planning body. Ligal and bal gopal are former members of he congress NPC when ram sharan had to cool his heel after losing and election and claim to ministerial berth. Hari shankar is pro-congress former governer of the Ratriya bank.
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      Ligal Becomes VC of NPC
      
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 (RSS) - His Majesty Government has appointed
   Prithiviraj Ligal to the vacant post of the Vice-Chairman of the
   National Planning Commission, according to the Ministry of Information
   and Communications. Likewise, Dr Bal Gopal Vaidya, Hari Shanker
   Tripathy and Rameshananda Vaidya have been appointed members of the
   National Planning Commission.
      
      UNESCO urged to enlist Lumbini in world heritage list
      
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 (RSS) - The leader of the Nepalese delegation to
   28th session of the general conference of UNESCO, ambassador and
   permanent delegate of Nepal to UNESCO, Keshav Raj Jha, has reiterated
   Nepals desire to enlist Lumbini in the world heritage list.
   
   Speaking in the fourth commission dealing with culture and
   communication, ambassador Jha thanked UNESCO for its cooperation in
   the preservation and protection of the rich cultural heritage of
   Nepal.
   
   He appealed the fourth commission to enlist Lumbini, the birth place
   of Lord Buddha, apostle of peace in the world, in the world heritage
   list as Nepal has already furnished all relevant documents to UNESCO
   to this effect.
   
      Madhav Nepal Condoles Avalanche Victims
      
   
   KATHMANDU, Nov 13 (RSS) - General Secretary of Nepal Communist Party
   (UML) Madhav Kumar Nepal has, in a message, expressed sorrow at the
   death of 17 foreigners and 14 Nepalese in the recent avalanches in
   Solukhumbu and Manang districts. He has requested the government to
   carry out the rescue operations for the surviving foreigners and
   Nepalese who have been trapped in the natural disaster and called upon
   all the people to extend their help for this purpose.

                                  LOCAL NEWS
       Journal Released
   
   LALITPUR (RSS) - Minister for Law and Justice Bhim Bahadur Tamang
   released here Saturday a quarterly journal Herang published by Nepal
   Tamang Ghedung (Association). On the occasion Minister Tamang also
   awarded letters of appreciations to artists making notable
   contributions to the association.
   
   Speaking on the occasion, Minister Tamang said the Tamangs who are one
   of the original tribes of Nepal should themselves strive hard to
   project the image of their community far and wide.
   
   Central vice chairman of Nepal Tamang Ghedung (association) Jitbir
   Tamang inaugurated a liaison office of the association Lalitpur
   district unit.
   
   District unit treasurer of the association Bal Bahadur Thokar,
   Chapagaon VDC chairman Krishna Bahadur Desar, the association central
   secretary Dharma Raj Tamang, its central treasurer Parman Singh
   Moktan, Pyutar VDC chairman Kewal Bahadur Lama and Kamal Bahadur
   Wonjan of Sankhu VDC also expressed their views.
    Amulya's comment:

Following is significant statement by Sailaza Acharya who has reputation for being a maverick but astute leader who knows how to rock the boat to strengthen her image of independence, without tipping it over.

It should be recalled that she is considered prime ministerail material and certainly the most visible woman in Congress politics. Although a relation of the Koirala's, she resigned after refusing to take back her statement that there was corruption in agriculture ministry even though she was an agriculture minister.

It is very significant that she has even made a decision to criticise the current coalition government, given that her party is a constituent of the current coalition.

Also, it is significant that she has not harped on feminisst lack of balance, [there is no female minister in the cabinet], she has charged that the cabinet is "too rightist"- a charge designed to appeal to the larger spectrum of political base rather than the women who do not constitute a significnat political power base.

She is probably too high in protocol to accept to be a minister under Deopa, it appears that she is posturing to be available as second Prime Minsiter if Deopa falls under his rightist tilt, and there is a need to link with more centrist and left of center members of parliament.
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                                 HEADLINE NEWS
   
  NO BALANCE IN COUNCIL OF MINISTERS
   
   BIRATNAGAR, Nov 10 (RSS) - Nepali Congress central member and MP Miss
   Shailaja Acharya has said at a press meet organized by the Nepal Press
   Union Morang here yesterday that a balance has not been maintained in
   the present council of ministers. The parties with very few seats in
   parliament have been given more responsibilities and the government
   has not been able to pick up speed to the desired extent.
   
   It is the fundamental principle of the Nepali Congress to adopt a
   middle way, she said, adding it is not a good sign that this party
   seems to have tilted towards the right at present.
   
***************************************************** Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 15:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: Durga Dahal <daha9014@uidaho.edu> To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu> Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - November 14, 1995 (2 Ashoj 2052 BkSm)

TND and Karki Ji's news. I wish to congrat to Mr. Morley, of England, if he has done things that came in TND. Mr. Morley has a great heart, and great confident, and great sacrifice. It is wonderful he is ready to be in exile if it needs Mr. Khadka be deported. It is a great news to me. It is a great sacrifice of Mr. Morley by wealth, and wishdom. Only the Britishers do that for we Nepali, (Gurkha) such a wonderful work. They are friends for 179 years. Thanks to Mr. Morley.

****************************************************************** Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 18:03:01 -0100 To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu> From: jpc@ethno.unizh.ch (Joanna Pfaff-Czarnecka) Subject: Sorry!

Dear Nick,

I am sorry, I haven't answer your last e-mail, yet. I was so upset about the news of Ernest's death that I just plounged into work (which was necessary, anyhow). It was too early that such a fine and stimulating scholar had to die. I am also very sad for David who did not have enough time in order to take leave. We live in such a quick time that there isn't even enouth time to mourn. In the meantime I learned that also Zygmunt Bauman died (I hope it is not true, but I am afraid it is). And Itzak Rabin.

As I promised, you shall receive a proper letter in the next days. Thank you very much for all your help. I am looking forward to working in Oxford, again. I just long to be once again in such a fascinating place.

With very best wishes Yours Joanna

********************************************************** Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 11:57:20 -0500 (EST) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Snow Deaths in Nepal From: mattf@cac.washington.edu (Matthew Freedman)

Here are some more news reports, more details are starting to come in. The ones at the end are newest. Most of these are from Reuters, and two from the Kathmandu Post, which I just found out is on the net, at http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~rshresth/ktmpost/news-home.html.

One report says seven lodges were buried in a landslide at Bagarchap. Anybody who has done the Annapurna circuit has passed through this village. It is/was perched on the edge of a large cliff, in a very very steep valley. It is the first "Tibetan-style" village on the circuit (going counter-clockwise).

I have added rec.climbing and soc.culture.nepal to the Newsgroups list, since there is discussion of this tragedy in both these groups as well.
        -- Matt
---------------- Subject: Trekkers evacuated after Nepal avalanche disaster Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 9:20:08 PST
                    
         KATHMANDU, Nepal (Reuter) - Rescuers evacuated over 230 people, nearly half of them foreign trekkers inlcuding 12 Americans, trapped in the Himalayas after one of Nepal's worst avalanche disasters near Mount Everest, officials said Monday.
         The helicopter rescue operation followed avalanches that killed at least 42 people. Seventeen others, including four Westerners -- two Canadians, an Irish woman and a German -- perished as houses collapsed elsewhere in Nepal.
         Eight helicopters carried out the rescues and a total of 237 people, including 111 foreigners, were taken to safety, a Nepali government spokesman said.
         Bad weather and poor visibility hampered rescuers and officials said they did not know how many of an estimated 500 foreign trekkers were trapped in the mountains by freezing cold weather, deep snow and avalanches.
         November is the peak season for foreign trekkers. But a huge cyclone in the Bay of Bengal last week provoked unusually heavy snowfall, catching many trekkers and their guides off guard.
         The helicopters ferried survivors from the Gokyo valley near Everest, the world's highest peak, Manang in mid-west Nepal and Langtang in central Nepal, government spokesman Prachanda Man Shrestha said,
         The rescue team evacuated 12 Americans, nine Britons, 10 Japanese, nine Australians and two Germans, he said.
         Seven Japanese, including the country's ambassador to Nepal, Shigenobu Yoshida, were rescued and brought to Kathmandu from the Langtang area, Shreshta said.
         Yoshida was visiting Langtang region to inspect a small project launched with Japanese assistance.
         Nine American nationals along with seven Britons were rescued from the Hongku in the Everest region, east of Gokyo valley where 13 Japanese were buried in an avalanche on Saturday.
         The other three Americans were evacuated from the Gokyo valley, the spokesman said.
         By Monday afternoon rescuers had recovered 21 bodies including the remains of 12 Japanese hikers, trekking agency officials said.
         Hitoshi Motoyoshi, a Japanese climber coordinating with the Trans-Himalayan Trekkers said Nepali guides and rescue workers were using shovels to clear the snow to search for the body of the remaining Japanese victim.
         The Japanese trekkers, as well as 13 Nepali guides and porters, were buried in the snow as they rested at an overnight camp at Pangka, some 170 miles northeast of Kathmandu, at around 1 a.m. Saturday (2 P.M EDT Friday).
         The Japanese hikers were making their way to the popular trekking destination of Gokyo Valley in the region of the 29,028 feet high peak. The valley is some 12 miles southwest of Everest.
         The victims' bodies were being kept at Pangka until coffins arrive from the Nepali capital Kathmandu, Shrestna said. The bodies were not expected in Kathmandu until Tuesday.
         Foreign trekkers who were rescued from the Gokyo, Na and Mera peak areas in the same region as Pangka were being lodged in Namche or Syangboche, gateways to Everest.
         They were not expected to be ferried to Kathmandu until rescuers finished evacuating stranded trekkers. Nepal's towering peaks and deep valleys attract some 65,000 foreign hikers each year.

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29 Bodies Recovered In Khumbu, Manang ;
Rescue Works Continue, 85 Airlifted To Safety ;
By a
Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Nov 12 - Rescuers have so far recovered 10 bodies of Japanese trekkers and 8 bodies of Sherpas buried in an avalanche in the Gokyo area in Khumbu region on Sunday. One Nepalese guide was reportedly found alive while three Japanese trekkers are still missing.

Rescue team has airlifted 85 persons to safety from the Gokyo area, officials told The Kathmandu Post Sunday. Officials said rescuers were also trying to airlift about 25 trekkers in the Manang region which was also struck by a landslide Friday following two days of torrential rains.

So far 33 persons, including 22 foreign tourists, have been reported dead by the avalanche and landslide and officials fear the figure could mount as the operation continues.

Meanwhile tour operators say, more than 50 trekkers were in the Gokyo area when the avalanche hit at around 1 PM Saturday. There could be more tourists in the area since other tour operators also handle trekking tours in the region, said a Trans Himalayan Tours official. His agency was handling 13 Japanese tourists and all of them are feared dead.

In Manang, Bagaarchaap, search team has found all 11 bodies of tourists swept away by the landslide. Four bodies of European trekkers were airlifted to the capital on Sunday.

According to police the dead include a Canadian and a woman from Ireland. The nationalities of the other foreigners is yet to be established.

Of the eight Nepali villagers reported missing in the area, the bodies of seven have been recovered. We fear that there could be more casualties, since local lodge owners say most of the lodgers have gone missing, Palden Gurung, the MP for Manang said shortly after arriving from his constituency.

Gurung estimated the damage in Manang to be worth around Rs 20 million. The landslide also swept away 17 houses in the area.

The tragedy which struck the nations Himalayan region is considered the worst ever. Last year 13 climbers lost their lives on the slopes of Mt. Pisang in Dhaulagiri zone.

In the aftermath of the tragedy, a rescue task force has been formed here in the capital comprising the Tourism Ministry, Himalayan Rescue Association, Trekking Agents Association Nepal, Nepal Mountaineering Institute and the Nepal Police. Royal Nepal Army is also conducting rescue helicopter flights in both the areas.

Rescue flights are being operated along Hinku valley, Makalu Barun area, Kanchanjunga, Ghunsa and Everest regions in the east and along Gorkha, Manaslu, Larkela Pass and Thorongla Pass in the west. In places where helicopters have been unable to land due to heavy snow, rations and first aid equipment have been dropped where people have been sighted. Snow in the Gokyo region is 3.5 metres deep.

As the rescue operations continue, new information has emerged that suggests the lives might have been saved had the tour operators asked for a special weather forecast from the Department of Meteorology, and had the department foreseen the foul weather that was to hit Gokyo area.

The Department puts out a special weather bulletin only on request, and department officials said tour operators sometimes ask for such bulletins. They did not request this time, an official said.

However, even if such a request had been placed, it would not have been of any help. According to an official in the Department, his agency had not foreseen any foul weather in the Himalayas that day. That is surprising, say observers, who point out that most of South Asia was experiencing the effects of a cyclone which hit the Bay of Bengal around that time.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: 12 Americans Rescued in Nepal Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 20:30:15 PST KATMANDU, Nepal (AP) -- Twelve Americans were rescued Monday from a mountainous region that was the scene of Nepal's deadliest avalanche in four decades. Twenty-two people were confirmed dead and three were missing. The avalanche struck eastern Nepal near Mt. Everest on Friday night, engulfing three lodges where 26 people were staying -- 13 Japanese, their 11 Nepalese guides and the two Nepalese lodge owners. One Nepalese guide survived. The Trans-Himalayan Trekking Co., which organized the expedition, said that on Monday, the bodies of two Japanese and one Nepalese were recovered. The bodies of 19 other victims were found over the weekend. One Japanese and two Nepalese are still missing, the company said. The avalanche caused Nepal's highest one-day death toll since the country opened to tourists in the 1950s. Twelve Americans trapped in the same area by heavy snow were rescued by government helicopters near Panga, a village in a valley on the southern face of Everest. Panga is at an altitude of 15,810 feet. Their identities were not immediately known. Another American walked out on his own. ``We were trapped for two days in heavy snow. It was difficult to come out. It took 12 hours instead of three hours,'' said Itsuro Motoyama, 55, of Pittsburgh. He spoke from Katmandu, where he arrived Monday. On Sunday, 85 trekkers were rescued by helicopter from the Panga area, many of them foreigners. Their names and nationalities were not immediately available. In western Nepal, 11 people were killed Friday night in a landslide that swept away homes and lodges in the village of Bagarchap. The dead included two Canadians, a German and an Irish woman. The landslide was caused by rain from the same storm that caused the deadly avalanche. Last year, 13 German climbers and their Nepalese guides died while they were climbing in the Himalayas, apparently when their rope snapped.

--- Subject: Nepal death toll rises to 49 as seven bodies found Date: Tue, 14 Nov 1995 2:20:23 PST KATHMANDU, Nov 14 (Reuter) - Rescuers in helicopters found seven bodies, including those of three Japanese trekkers, buried in snow on Tuesday, raising the death toll in one of Nepal's worst avalanche disasters to 49, officials said. The bodies of four Nepali nationals were found with the three dead Japanese near Kanchenjunga, the world's third highest mountain some 500 km (300 miles) east of the Himalayan kingdom's capital Kathmandu. The victims, whose bodies were airlifted to nearby Kansu village, were not identified. Rescuers continued to search on Tuesday for hundreds of foreign trekkers stranded in the Himalayan mountains by heavy snowfall. Altogether 42 people, including 17 foreigners, died over the weekend after a freak storm dumped two metres (six feet) of snow. A huge avalanche buried 25 people, including 13 Japanese, near Mount Everest. Seventeen others, including four foreigners, died as houses collapsed elsewhere in Nepal. Two of the four foreigners killed in a landslide that buried 17 houses including seven tourist lodges in Manang region were identified on Tuesday as Mary Josephine Harkin of Ireland and Armen Sehleicher of Germany. The bodies of the two others were being kept at the German embassy in Kathmandu. Three foreigners whose back packs were found in Manang were reported missing -- Canadian Mitchell Karper, German Gernot Selber Mayer and Briton Nicholas Ellman. By midday on Tuesday, helicopters had plucked 477 people including 178 foreigners from the snows, mostly from the Everest region which was the hardest hit area. The names of those who were evacuated were not available. ``This is the first time that such a large trekking area has been hit by disaster,'' government spokesman Prachanda Man Shrestha said. Officials said hundreds, perhaps thousands, of foreign trekkers had set out on hiking expeditions across the Himalayan kingdom before the freak snow storm, churned up by a cyclone in the Bay of Bengal, hit the region. November is the peak season for trekkers. Some 9,000 foreigners registered in the three weeks to November 8 for trekking expeditions in seven locations. About 2,700 said they planned to go to the Everest region, while 3,200 were headed to Annapurna area and another 300 to the Kanchenjunga region. Officials said they did not know exactly how many trekkers, guides and porters had been trapped in the mountains by freezing cold weather, deep snow and avalanches. On Monday helicopters ferried survivors from the Gokyo valley in the Everest region, Manang in mid-west Nepal and Langtang in central Nepal, Shrestha said. By Monday rescuers had evacuated 12 Americans, 10 Japanese, nine Britons, nine Australians and two Germans, he said. Seven Japanese, including the ambassador to Nepal, Shigenobu Yoshida, were rescued and brought to Kathmandu from the Langtang area. Yoshida was visiting Langtang region to inspect a small project launched with Japanese assistance. The nine U.S. nationals along with seven Britons were rescued from the Hongku in the Everest region, east of Gokyo Valley where 13 Japanese were buried in an avalanche. Khumbu Tragedy 25 More Bodies Recovered By a Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Nov 13 - Rescuers have recoverd the bodies of 12 Japanese trekkers and 13 Nepali Sherpas buried in an avalanche in Gokyo in the Khumbu region Sunday.

Seven helicopters operating rescue flights over the last two days have airlifted 128 persons, including 56 foreigners and 72 Nepalis to safety in Syangboche and Lukla.

Sixteen foreigners, including nine Americans and seven British nationals, and 32 Nepalis were transported to safety from Hinku Valley to Lukla.

Thirtysix persons, including two British, one Scot, four Australian, two Dutch, two New Zealand, two Japanese, two French, three American, one Canadian and one Norwegian national have been airlifted from Gokyo to Syangboche.

Rescue flights transported 30 persons - 20 Nepalis, one Japanese and nine Australians from Gokyo to Lukla. Two German nationals have been airlifted from AmaDablam Base camp. None of the airlifted persons have suffered injuries,informed an official of the rescue task force set up in the capital. People were crawling in the snow. I could see hands waving from the snow covered huts, a pilot returning from a flight in the Hinku region said.

More than 50 trekkers, including a group of 25 Italian trekkers were reportedly in the Gokyo region when the avalanche struck around 1 am Saturday, making officials fear that the death toll could mount. No one is certain of the number of trekkers in the area. No bodies will be brought to the capital before the rescue mission is complete, an official said.

******************************************************8 From: Rajesh Shrestha <rshresth@husc.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 12:00:13 -0500 (EST) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Flood in Nepal ?!?

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Pradeep Bista (pbista@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu) wrote: : I heard a news statement on Channel 5 (FOX) news in New York last night : that there had been a flood in Nepal and had killed 40 people including : 11 in Kathmandu area.

Check out the Kathmandu Post at: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~rshresth/ktmpost/news-home.html also Reuters at http://www.yahoo.com/headlines/current/international

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A new "Kathmandu Home Page" is now under construction. If you are interested in viewing it here is the address

http://anesthesiol.mc.duke.edu/kisan/

Please let me know if there is any special photoes or articles that you would want to see in it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. My Email Address is Upadh001@mc.duke.edu Hope you like it

thanks Kisan Upadhyaya

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