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The Nepal Digest Mon May 23, 1998: Jestha 9 2055BS: Year7 Volume74 Issue5
Today's Topics:
Sad departure - Panthi family appeal
Nepali News
The Problems of Christianity (Part 2)
Spanish Brown Bear Foundation research
Himalayan Yeti Formed
Selling of Innocents
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:20:14 +0530
From: "F. A. H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple" <hutch@wlink.com.np>
To: The Nepal Digest
Subject: Sad departure - Panthi family appeal
AN APPEAL FOR HELP FROM NARAYAN PANTHI!
Rajan, my eldest son died, May 18, 1998. He was 24-years old. But, there
is still hope for my two other children, Gokul, 19, and Parbati, 21. Please
help us if you can! (please see attached photograph)
My family is besieged by a deadly, genetic disorder, a virulent form of
cancer called, Xeroderma Pigmentosum, made worse by exposure to the sun
(and other UV sources).
Most children can go outside and play in the sun. My children have to hide
indoors in the daytime and can only go out at night (after sundown).
The sun, giver of life to most, is the taker of life to my child.
We have searched far and wide for help, treatment, and a solution to this
situation... from Nepal to India and back, and finally, in America, we think
we have found one!
We, the Panthi family, have been accepted into a special ('Sundown') camp,
the Xeroderma Pigmentosum Society of Poughkeepsie, N.Y./U.S.A., operates
every summer.
But, that addresses only part of our problem. First, we have to finance a
great part of this expensive trip to the U.S. (in July) ourselves, plus meet
additional medical expenses.
We have determined that we need to raise nearly one-million rupees
(almost $16,000U.S.).
Fortunately, God has blessed us with friends, near and far: from Japan, to
Alaska in the U.S. and to the U.K..
We have raised almost three lahks/rupees to date:
The Swablambi Pariwar Sangh/Nepal has donated one lahk/rupees and is raising
more, the XP Society is donating one session of camp, plus $2,250U.S.,
Royal Nepal Airlines is donating three free tickets and three at
fifty-percent off between Kathmandu and London (still have to fund the
London to N.Y.C. portion of the trip), Nepali students in Japan have donated
20,000 yen (10,000 rupees), and friends in the U.K. have donated 40,000
rupees.
But, we still need to raise seven lahks/rupees more, or 700,000 rupees
($11,000U.S.).
Thus, we (my wife Janaki and me) ask for your help! Please consider this
appeal!
I have worked all my life to support my family. I owned a successful
business, a small hotel here in Kathmandu until my children were stricken
with this almost unknown illness (we have been to doctors and hospitals
from Kathmandu to the south of India).
Now, we live on the rent from our stores below, roughly 10,000 rupees per
month (roughly $125U.S.). I have had to devote all of my time and energy
to trying to find a solution to this disease that's devastating my family!
Now, our only hope now lies in America, where it is said they have the
facilities and possible treatment for such an unknown form of cancer,
Xeroderma Pigmentosum. Please, if you have access to a computer/Internet,
check out a WEB site: www.xps.org for information about this disease, and
the XP Society.
And we would also like to thank the following individuals, and organizations
that have been involved with helping us in some fashion over the past years.
Without them we could not have made it!
BANK ACCOUNT FOR DONATIONS (IN NEPAL):
'Rajan and Gokul Panthi' #555555 'J'
Himalayan Bank, Thamel, Kathmandu
Namaste!
Narayan Panthi
Anamnagar, Kathmandu, Nepal
(+977+1) 227311
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The Nepal Digest
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Ms. Uma Shrestha, Bay City, Michigan/U.S.A.
Mr. Shailesh N. Gongal, Cambridge, Massachusetts/U.S.A.
The XP Society, Poughkeepsie, N.Y./U.S.A.
Swablambi Pariwar Sangh (Independent Family Organization of Nepal)
Nepal Cancer Relief Society, Kathmandu
Royal Nepal Airlines, Kathmandu
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T.U. Teaching Hospital, Kathmandu
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The B.P. Koirala/Lions Centre for Ophthalmic Studies, Tribhuvan University, Kathmandu
Mr. Rajan Rayamajhi/Sangrilla Business Group, Kathmandu
Mr. F.A.H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple/writer-poet, Kathmandu
Mr. S.K. Gautam/Industrial Service Bureau, Kathmandu
Mr. Raj Kumar Basnyat/Diyalo Quarterly
Mr. Bijay Shivakotee/songwriter
Mr. Punya Prasad Regimi
Mr. Bindu Lal Shrestha/Peace Corp, Nepal
Mr. Munish Bhattarai
Mr. Ngima Gyalgen Lama/Kyusha University
Graham and Colleen Misbach/L.D.S. Charities
Mr. Mahesh Gautam
Mr. Santosh Sharma/Music Nepal
Mr. Kumar Basnyat/folksinger
Mr. Sandeep Singh Mahat/#1 table tennis player in Nepal
Rajesh and Anuja Agrawal/Creative Minds & Travelation
Bogdan Holeiciuc and Cristina Armengol-Dalmau, Kathmandu
Mr. Chandra Bhandari/former General Secretary, Nepal Students Union
Mr. Bijay Kumar Kidia/Kedia Organization
Melody Magazine
Dr. Bhakta Man Shrestra/cancer specialist
Mr. Himal Rajbhandari/Treasurer, Social Welfare Council, HMG, Nepal
Mrs. Kamal Panti/Assistant Minister of Women and Social Welfare, HMG, Nepal
Dr. Padam Prasad Paudyal, Salisbury, N.C./U.S.A.
Dr. Dinesh Kumar Dalbir, Oklahoma City, OK./U.S.A.
Dr. Sharad Kumar Sharma, N.Y.C./U.S.A.
Dr. Ram Saran Mahat
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Date: 19 May 1998
To: The Nepal Digest <nepal@cs.niu.edu>
Subject: Nepali News
Source: The Kathmandu Post (acknowledged)
Humlis eating poisonous grasses !
By a Post Reporter
SIMIKOT, Humla, May 18 - Most of the people who died in the last few weeks in Humla district succumbed
after eating poisonous weeds and grass in the absence of foodstuff, according to a government doctor who
recently toured the famine-hit areas.
Dr Gunaraj Awasthi, stationed at a government hospital in Nepalgunj, was recently deputed to Humla as the
head of team carrying emergency medical supplies.
After returning to Nepalgunj, Dr Awasthi told newsmen that most of the deaths in the past weeks were because
Humlis, rather than going hungry in the absence of food, ate weeds and grasses from nearby jungles which could
have been poisonous.
Meanwhile, the Chief District Officer (CDO) of Humla district Jeevan Prasad Oli told The Kathmandu Post
that altogether 48 people have died. Death tolls cited by local Nepali Congress activist, however, say about 80
persons have died due to the lack of food.
CDO Oli, meanwhile, refuted that Humlis were dying by eating weeds and grasses. He said that most of them
died because of high fever and chest pain.
But when contacted by telephone from Kathmandu on Monday, Dr Awasthi stood by what he said. "There is
not even a single grain of rice in Humla which is leading many locals to eat jungle weeds causing deaths. The
Agriculture Input Corporations claims that rice was available in Humla in their godowns is also untrue. Only a
little wheat has reached the villages, that too of low quality".
He cited an example of the mass hunger prevalent in Humla by saying that a father fed his
young child coarse buckwheat because there was no other foodstuff to feed. The child died
soon thereafter, said Dr Awasthi.
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 15:44:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joel Hafvenstein <joel.hafvenstein@yale.edu>
To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>
Subject: The Problems of Christianity (Part 2)
[continued from previous issue]
> Otherwise, you wouldn't have used this
> sentence, "At time his simplifications of the issues turn into flat-out
> lies, such as this one." And then you quote Jason: "Simply stated,
> Christians will always hate Jews as long as they are taught that their
> savior, Jesus Christ, was killed by Jews."
>
> One wonders what's "flat-out lies" about it?
Any statement that begins with the words "Christians will always hate
Jews" ranges awfully close to the edge of falsehood, and Jason's qualifier
doesn't save this one from plunging straight off. I was taught that, as
the only relevant historical accounts relate, Jesus died because a large
mob of the local people (i.e. Jews) demanded his execution. Yet I do not
hate Jews, and none of the Christians I know personally hate Jews. Thus,
the statement is false... and not only false, but slanderous. Accusing
any belief system of "always" encouraging anti-Semitism is serious stuff.
Of course many Christians have hated Jews, and plenty still do. I'm
quite familiar with the anti-Jewish screed of numerous major Church
figures -- ranging from John Chrysostom's rantings to Luther's "On the
Jews and Their Lies" to modern preachers who threw their support behind
Nazi ethnic theories. There's a long, dirty history of Christian
anti-Semitism -- and it's no secret. Major Christian leaders of every
sect and denomination have admitted it, repented of it, and rejected it.
I suspect, however, that it is precisely this rejection by Christians of
the Church's anti-Jewish past that Jason is unwilling to allow. He seems
convinced that the past wrongs of Christianity _must_ stem from some
doctrine inherent to the religion. Unfortunately, this leads him to
simplify the issue beyond all recognition -- or veracity. Saying that
many anti-Semites are Christians, or that the Church historically often
encouraged anti-Semitism, is a completely different thing from saying that
"Christians will always hate Jews." Not only Christians, but plenty of
Jews would find the latter statement absurd -- for example, my beloved
friends from both religions who are involved in constructive Jewish-
Christian dialogues. Does Jason really think he's the only person in the
world intelligent enough to figure out that Jesus (like almost all early
Christians) was Jewish? There is nothing inherent in Christianity which
demands anti-Semitism.
I am in fact well aware of the thesis of "Hitler's Willing Executioners".
I am also aware that, after an initial surge of popularity, the scholarly
world overwhelmingly condemned Goldhagen as a sensationalistic young
"historian" who twisted the historical evidence to fit his arguments. I
hope you'll excuse me, then, if I take it with a large grain of salt as a
"scholarly source." (If you're interested in following the debate on this
topic, you should look for a recent book entitled "A Nation on Trial: The
Goldhagen Thesis and the Historical Truth," by Finkelstein and Birn).
> This is the primary goal of persuasive writing anyway, isn't it?
Yes, but Jason goes about it in the wrong way. I disagree with him not
because he's trying to convert people to his view, but because he's doing
it through wildly inaccurate depictions of the opposing view. _Good_
persuasive writing is fair and reasonable in addressing those with whom
you disagree. Otherwise, when someone points out the degree to which you
misrepresented your opponents, you come off looking rather foolish and not
at all persuasive.
As a case in point, Pramod, you repeatedly accused me of "Multi-
culturalism gone wild" -- of making the argument that "because all
religions have been responsible for bad things, therefore it's okay that
Christianity has been responsible for bad things." To back this up, you
quoted a passage in which I compared Christianity to other religions:
> > Many (if not most) religions have a conversion impulse...
> >
> > _All_ religions have been guilty of condoning crimes such as
> > slavery or racism for long periods in their histories...
> >
> > And all religions
> > have been attended at times by superstitions (such as witch hunts) or
> > cultural baggage (such as myths of racial superiority) which proved
> > harmful and unjust.
You treat these lines as though I was trying to argue that "crimes" and
"superstitions" were somehow justified by their presence in all religions.
However, you completely ignored the next paragraph, which completed the
rather less ambitious argument I was actually making:
: I'm not going to go through the arguments here that you shouldn't judge
: a whole religion by the actions of some of its members. Instead, I just
: want to point out that Jason might more accurately have titled his paper
: "My Problems with Religion"... and that such a paper would have been
: much less likely to find its way into the Nepal Digest.
I thought this passage would make my intentions obvious. I was trying to
fend off the possibility (with which you yourself were concerned) that a
Hindu or atheist might think, "Oh, those Christians have been guilty of
crimes and superstitions, but _we're_ perfectly innocent." That's simply
not the case. Any honest seeker for truth has to take into account the
fact that all major religions and philosophies have been used in the
support of great evils.
This leads rather naturally to what I called "the argument that you
shouldn't judge a whole religion by the actions of some of its members".
I wouldn't insult you, Pramod, by comparing the atheism of Lenin and
Stalin to the humanist agnosticism of Bertrand Russell; despite their
common anti-religious roots, they arrive at completely different moral
endpoints. Jason, however, makes precisely that mistake. He argues
passionately against the Christianity of Torquemada, Richard the
Lionheart, and Hiram Bingham -- and if those were the only ways in which
Christianity was used, he would be justified in demanding its abolition.
But he completely ignores the Christianity of (for example) Martin Luther
King Jr, Mother Teresa, and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Jason doesn't even try
to argue against this side of the religion; he acts as if the only
Christians who matter are Inquisitors, Jew-haters, and vengeful parents.
Unfortunately, that destroys the validity of his conclusion. I agree with
him that we should get rid of colonialism, anti-Semitism, sexism, and so
on. But when he then goes on to argue that we should get rid of
Christianity, I have to respond: "What about all those Christians who
weren't imperialists, or anti-Semites, or sexists, or...?" and so on.
[snip colonialism arguments]
> Joel, how wrong and uninformed you are here! You give an example of a
> movie to make your point! How about Jason's scholarly sources?
<grin> Scholarly sources are a dime a dozen, Pramod. I cited _The
Mission_ (which is, incidentally, based on true events which took place in
South America around 1750 CE) because I was writing for the benefit of the
readers of the Nepal Digest, not for academia. Few if any TND readers are
going to go out and look up the books Jason cited, but I thought they
might be interested in watching a good movie. Thus, I gave the example of
_The Mission_, a beautiful flick which perfectly illustrates the complex
interaction of missionary Christianity with native environments.
However, your sarcasm inspired me to go down to the Yale library and drag
up a few scholarly sources for your benefit. Please, let me make one
thing clear again: I am _not_ defending colonialism in any way, shape, or
form. But I think that anyone who honestly examines a wide range of
accounts of colonialism will find two conclusions inescapable: (a) that
there were European Christians on both sides of the colonial debate, and
(b) that Christianity was an extremely beneficial ideology for the native
anti-colonial movements, not just the colonists. As in all other areas,
the record is mixed.
Many missionaries collaborated with colonial governments, but many others
opposed them; missionaries were responsible for both encouraging
institutional racism (against the Hutus in Rwanda) and ending it (against
the Hottentots in South Africa). "The Rise and Fall of Western
Colonialism" by Stewart C Easton (FA Praeger Press, 1964) describes the
efforts of Christian missionaries to end the exploitation of indigenous
peoples by colonial officials and traders. Missionaries were largely
responsible for opposing exploitative institutions such as prostitution,
the slave trade, and the mutilation of women. "The Missionary-Islander
Encounter in Hawaii" by Jack Johnson-Hill (_Mission Studies_, Vol XII)
provides an extremely well-written, balanced illustration of this mixed
role. Missionaries also provided education for poor indigenous peoples
(often over the objections of both the colonial governments and the native
elites), which eventually enabled those peoples to overthrow their
European rulers and build independent governments.
A. Adu Boahen's "African Perspectives on Colonialism" (Johns Hopkins
Press, 1987) emphasizes the centrality of Christian churches and religious
movements in opposing colonialism. Clergymen like the Rev. John Chilembwe
in Malawi "attacked colonialism as a mockery of Christianity" and led
rebellions against the European powers. African Christians were no less
convinced than European Christians that Christianity was the truth, and
that Africa should be evangelized... but they wanted it evangelized by
Africans, who could communicate Christianity without unnecessary European
cultural baggage.
Finally, George Louis Beer's "The Origins of the British Colonial System,"
(Peter Smith Press, 1959) discusses the widespread rhetoric of "spreading
Christianity" which pervaded the colonial era, and concludes that "Though
this religious motive figured very prominently in the writings of the day,
yet it cannot be considered as one of the determining causes of the
movement. While specifically prominent, the idea was fundamentally
subordinate." Colonialism was primarily motivated by politics and
economics -- as Jason himself pointed out in his paper. However, Jason
also implied that Christian support for colonialism was an obvious
corollary of the Christian conversion impulse... and in that, I maintain,
he is quite mistaken.
> I strongly believe that you read the accounts of Western colonial
> expansion. You'll find that there's a famous saying that European
> imperialism spread with the Bible in one hand and a gun in another.
A famous cliche, Pramod. Like most cliches, it's based on a truth, but
it's far too short and tidy to capture the reality.
> Again, read into feminist and gay and lesbian literature.
I have -- including Christian feminist, gay, and lesbian literature,
which provide many ways of reconciling gender issues with Christianity.
Would you care to cite the references that you're thinking of here?
> This is precisely why
> people like Jason are needed in this age of facile multiculturalism when
> "ego-massage" and self-congratulation have become the order of the day.
Jason's approach to the problem is precisely what we do not need, Pramod.
His equally facile rhetoric and uncompromising polemic can only build
barriers to discussion. If he genuinely cared about discovering the
_truth_, he would weigh both sides of the issue fairly. I have several
friends who have done just that and come to the conclusion that
Christianity is false. I disagree with them, but I respect their approach
to the problem, and our dialogue has continued apace. Jason, on the other
hand, never really discusses the issue of whether or not Christianity
might be _true_. He merely assumes that because people have done bad
things in the name of a religion, the religion itself must be bad. In
this, he is simply not correct.
And though I deeply appreciate your compliment to my father, Pramod, your
inflammatory comments hardly foster a friendly dialogue, either. Perhaps
you feel that I deserved such an attack; you seemed particularly offended
that I used words like "lies" and "chips on shoulders" in my response.
Let me point out that I used the word "lie" once, in regard to Jason's
extremely serious charge that Christians hating Jews is inevitable. And
as far as chips on shoulders go, I don't feel that that's too strong a
term to describe Jason's approach to Christianity. He has a clear bias,
which he himself described as personally motivated. As I said in my
initial response, I sympathize with his pain, but not with the conclusions
he derives from that pain.
Finally, I apologize to all readers of the Nepal Digest for taking up so
much of your reading space with this response. If this dialogue
continues, we'll hopefully be able to resolve some of these issues and
shorten the overall length of our posts.
Regards,
Joel Hafvenstein
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 08:20:52 +0530
From: "F. A. H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple" <hutch@wlink.com.np>
Cc: editor Contributions <nepal@cs.niu.edu>
Subject: 'Ancient Sayings of Nepal'
I'm sorry you find no humor in the 'Ancient Sayings of the ...' It
tells me more about the Nepali cultural zietgeist...
I think one of the things I notice about Nepalis is that they tend to
take themselves and their culture too seriously... If you can't laugh at
yourself and your culture you've got a bigger problem than I thought...
Additionally, if you can't understand the humor in your own ancient
'wise sayings,' then I wouldn't try to sell WAVE to other than Nepalis,
like an American audience... You'll miss the point...
You wouldn't probably understand 'The Simpsons,' TV series (on Fox)
either...
Americans have no reverence for anything but the almighty $... That's
why I'm here in Nepal...
But, I find it interesting that most Nepalis want to go there, where
they would laugh at 'ancient sayings,' be it their own, or others...
That's one of the great things about Americans, we don't take ourselves
too seriously... I guess this is what you would call irony...?
I would imagine most expatriate Nepalis find America hard to
understand... At the very least hard to adjust to...
Also, the Panthi family has decided that there isn't enough time to plan
a benefit concert before departing on July 19th... So, we cancelled that
effort in exchange for asking for donations...
And I supppose, because you've been 'offended' by my sense of humor,
you probably won't run the Panthi articles as you said you would in the
next two issues... And thus we will see what kind of journalistic
integrity you have...
I wonder if that's equally as important to you as a false sense of
pride?
Namaste!
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Date: Tue, 17 May 1988 13:32:56 +0200
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
From: Antonio Lucio Calero <lucioaj@galeno.medi.unican.es>
Subject: Spanish Brown Bear Foundation research
Dear sir or madam,
I know that you may not be able to help me directly, but if you could give
me the name of someone who could, I would be very grateful.
I am an English post-graduate environmental/human geographer, presently
working for an environmental NGO in Spain. I am writing to you in the hope
that you may be able to give me some information about organisations
involved in the conservation of bears in the East.
I am undertaking a project for the Fundacion Oso Pardo (FOP - Brown Bear
Foundation) which works to conserve the remaining population of brown bears
in Northern Spain. By creating a list organisations and National Parks
around the world which are involved in bear conservation (all bear species,
although the brown/grizzly bear is most relevant) it is envisaged that a
network with organisations may be set up to share ideas on issues they wish
to discuss.
I would be very grateful if you could get in touch with me with any helpful
contacts and addresses for:
* National Parks you know of containing bears (in Nepal, and elsewhere).
* Recognised NGOs involved in bear conservation.
* Details of your organisation and the work you do.
I am sorry to take up your time but would be grateful for any support you
could give. If you are unable to help, could you put me in touch with
someone who may? =20
I can be contacted by e-mail, fax, or by post at the address below. I look
forward to hearing from you in the near future.
Yours with thanks,
Stuart M. Whittington
Grupo de Investigaci=F3n Vida Silvestre
Departamento de Geograf=EDa
Urbanismo y Ordenaci=F3n del Territorio
Universidad de Cantabria
Avenida de los Castros S/N
39005 SANTANDER
Spain
Tel/Fax: + 942 20-19-36 (press 'Start' after the answerphone message)
E-mail: lucioaj@medi.unican.es=20
The Fundacion Oso Pardo website can be found at:
http://www.esegi.es/esegi/oso/hpage.html
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:51:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Nirmal Ghimire <ngh42799@marauder.millersv.edu>
To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - May 18, 1998 (4 Jestha 2055 BkSm)
Hi:
I had brought this issue up around a year or year and half ago.
I have always been thinking if there is any "rationale" in
not letting the non-hindus enter Pasupati.
Why?
I can understand why leather is not allowed and things like that
but why are non-hindus not allowed in?
I don't think this has anything to do with Hinduism and I
mean the Hindu philosophy. I have not come across such phrase
in few Hindu scriptures that I have read.
If all are equal then why is tis going on?
This analogy may not sound correct but isn't this like not
letting the blacks go in a restaurant during the slavery period.
"Hindu is a born hindu" is a different philosophy. Bottom line of this is
trying to say that converting of religion is not encouraged in Hinduism.
This issue is not something like making beef legal. For a cow has
a different meaning in Hinduism, and it could hurt the sentiments of many
if that was to happen.
But how many Hindus would actually feel hurt if non-Hindu entered
Pasupati?
But as I said before giving the privelage for others to enter does not
mean making it unclean. It is more like expanding the horizon for others.
Letting more people see what it is like and what the culture is like.
I am not saying asdvertising(for that is bad)but rather opening the doors
for many. Glamour has no place in spirituality.
Don't you think God personal or impersonal would be more pleased by
such gesture.
In response of this some may come and say hinduism has always
discriminated by caste and etc..
But please understand my argument is not that issue this time.
My purpose is to understand why can't we let non-Hindus enter in.
Is there going to be a sever effect if we do so?
Is it time we make this proposal to the government and try to solve this?
This question has been pondring me for quite a time now?
I was curious too know what many think about this
Thanks for reading this and hoping for responses.
bye
Nirmal
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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:31:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: kamal@groupmail.com
To: tnd@nepal.org
Subject: Himalayan Yeti Formed
Dear Friends,
It give me great pleasure to bring the news to you that what was once Yeti
Manchester and North UK has not been officially registered as Himalayan Yeti.
As per its constitution freedom, Himalayan Yeti should now be recognised as
a totally separate association from Yeti. What is even more of a great news
is that, not only will Himalayan Yeti represent Nepalese residing in North
UK, but now membership is open to all Nepalese resident in the UK.
I am sure that many of you will join me in wishing the newly registered
Himalayan Yeti a successful future and hope that it can achieve the aims
that Yeti (Nepalese Association in UK ???) so badly failed in. Lets us get
rid of the old Yeti who have served no purpose to the Nepalese community in
the UK and look forward to a brighter future with Himalayan Yeti.
Best Wishes
Kamal Shrestha
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:05:25 -0400
From: Anne Joshi-Atlanta <AJoshi@RussReyn.com>
To: 'Nepal Digest' <tnd@nepal.org>
Subject: FW: The hypocrisy of nations (fwd)
I, in no way, support the policies of present gov't of India. However,
I deplore the continued interference and bossiness of imperialist
nations like the US who think nothing of catering to China despite its
continued human rights abuses and rape of Tibet, yet screech in impotent
fury because India -- who has never kowtowed to the western bully -- has
dared to thumb its nose at it. Such is the price of arrogance. (Aiko
Joshi)
>I have become increasingly incensed on the reactions of the US, Britain,
>Japan and other countries condemning India for its nuclear blasts. Every
>night, on public tv news(I don't watch the local news as it's nothing but
>drivel), one sees suit-clad men with bad haircuts pontificating piously
>about "bad" India doing a "bad" thing, and what this will mean for the
>"rest of the world", etc. etc. drone, drone until one wants retch! Truth
>be told, these white men( many whom were former directors or execs of the
>Pentagon or CIA or some other capitalist-imperialist arm of the US) are
>alarmed that *gasp!* THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES are vying for nuclear power
>with *a-hem* the more "advanced" nations such as the US! WE CANNOT HAVE
>THAT, NO SIREE!! I mean, these third world chappies just CANNOT BE
>TRUSTED!!!! Looks of horror all around as they silently contemplate the
>possiblities and consequences. Once in awhile, cooler heads prevail, as
>in the form a a university professor the other night on the "News Hour
>with Jim Lehrer" program. This Prof. Meerschaum(not sure of the spelling)
>stated that India was not a threat, and basically said India has the right
>to trying to get nuclear weapons because it feared China -- which has
>nuclear capabilities and notice how the US doesn't say anything about
>THAT! -- and the US needed to stop being hypocritical; that if the US was
>soooo concerned about nuclear weapons build up, then it should dismantle
>its own nuclear aresenal, which has certainly a helluva lot more than
>India or any other country!
>
>It's the continued efforts of imperialist countries like the US trying to
>dictate to other nations on what to do that makes me angry. The
>racial-cultural superiority that the US and other western nations keep
>trying to ram down our throats is another bone of contention with me. Who
>the heck gives these white old foagies the right to try and dictate and
>nosey-parker around countries they deem "beneath" them! And the sickening
>fawning of other western nations (and Japan, sorry to say) in trying to
>curry favor and remain on good terms with the North American bully makes
>me want to just scream!!! I did happen to see something in The New York
>Times today(I believe) that Russia is opting for a more "gentle" approach,
>and opposes sanctions. But that might be more to just be contrary to the
>US its long-standing rival than to really care about not shutting out
>India. And I say BRAVO to India for not giving a damn about what the US
>or Britain or Japan say. The US is tweaked because India has never
>kowtowed to its colonialist twaddle; memories of Britain's grip are still
>strong, I can imagine. Politics aside(and I don't esp. care for present
>situation in India), I support India's show of power and its thumbing its
>nose at busy-body western nations. With all this ballyhoo over INdia's
>action, it really smacks of racism to me, with dire predictions of a
>"chain reaction" of nulcear blastings by other newly-formed republics and
>nations -- all third world nations, or nations that are not well off or
>very stable -- and how "dangerous" this will be globally. So, it's all
>right for the US or Britain or continental Europe or China or Japan to
>have an arsenal of weapons, because "they" know how to "control"
>themselves and are not likely to have *itchy* fingers. But nations like
>India or Pakistan, or Iraq or the Central Asian republics or poorer Latin
>American countries *should not* have such dangerous toys, because *THEY*
>are unstable and don't know how to control themselves!(Oh, I forgot,
>Israel has nuclear arsenal too, but since it is the pet of US. . .) On a
>final note: think about WHO is doing the reporting on this side of the
>world(US, Europe, Britain). What is being said in other parts of the
>world, especially the Third World? The blatant arrogance is so glaring!
>
>Aiko Joshi
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From: Royal Nepalese Embassy (UK)
To: OPEN TO ALL, NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
Date: Wed, May 20, 1998
RE: TALENT HUNTING -NEPAL MIGHT BE THE PLACE
THE SCHOOL OF WOODARD CORPORATION
JAMES FLECKER
HEADMASTER
TELE:01444-892577 ARDINGLY
COLLEGE HAYWARD
S HEATH
TO WHOME IT MAY CONCERN=0D
-----------------------=0D
23RD JAN 1998=0D
ARAVINDRA B KARKI
----------------=
ARAVINDRA KARKI IS AN OUTSTANDING STUDENT FROM NEPAL.IN 1996 HE DESERVED=
LY WON A SCHOLARSHIP AT ARDINGLY COLLEGE AS SOON AS HE ARRIVED FROM NEPAL=
=2E IN HIS FOUR TERMS WITH US HE HAS COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED OUR FAITH ON HI=
M.HE STARTED STUDYING A- LEVEL MATHS, FURTHER MATHS, AND PHYSICS BUT HE W=
AS DOING SO WELL AT THESE SUBJECTSIN THE FIRST SIX WEEKS OF HIS FIRST TER=
M THAT I ASKED HIM TO TAKEUP BUSINESS STUDIES AS WELL. IN THE END OF TERM=
EXAMS, FOUR WEEKS LATER, HIS WERE THE TOP MARKS, 17% ABOVE HIS NEAREST R=
IVAL.=0D
SINCE THEN HE WAS AWARDED 2ND PRIZE IN THE MACMILLAN ENGLISH ESSAY CO=
MPETION AT HERTFORD COLLEGE, OXFORD, WITH THE ANALYSIS OF THE FUTURE OF C=
HINA AND HAS JUST GAINED A CONDITIONAL OFFER AT OXFORD TO READ ENGINEERIN=
G ECONOMICS AND MANAGEMENT.=0D
ARAVINDRA,S FATHER, COLONEL INDRA KARKI, IS THE MILITAARY ATTACHE AT =
THE ROYAL NEPALESE EMBASSY LONDON.THIS IS A THREE YEAR APPOINTMENT WHICH =
HE TOOK UP AT THE SAME TIME AS ARABINDRA CAME TO ARDINGLY. AT THE TIME OF=
HIS ARRIVAL IN THE UK, FOREIGN NATIONALS WHOSE PARENTS WERE RESIDENTS IN=
THE UK FOR THREE YEARS OR MORE WERE ENTITLED TO ATTEND BRITISH UNIVERSIT=
IES ON THE SAME FINANCIAL TERMS AS NORMAL UK STUDENTS. RECENTLY HOWEVER,T=
HIS ARRANGEMENT WAS REVOKED, AND INSTEAD OF BEING EDUCATED IN THE UK FOR =
$5,000 A YEAR, ARAVINDRA WILL HAVE TO FIND $18,000 A YEAR. SUCH A SUM MIG=
HT BE PERFECTLY POLLIBLE FOR STUDENTS FROM FIRST WORLD COUNTRIES,BUT IS M=
ANIFESTLY OUT OF THE REACH OF SUCH AS ARABINDRA KARKI.=0D
SO FAR, ARDINGLY HAS PROVIDED ARAVINDRA WITH A 100% SCHLAARSHIP ($14,=
000 FOR TWO YEARS) TO ENABLE HIM TO STUDY FOR A LEVEL IN ENGLAND. IT WOUL=
D BE TRAGIC IF HE WAS UNABLE TO HIS EDUCATIN IN THIS COUNTRY.=0D
THIS OPEN LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO COLLEGES, COMPANIES AND TRUSTS WHICH=
MIGHT HAVE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO HELP HIM WITH THE COSTS OF HIS UNIVEERSITY=
EDUCATION. ARAVINDRA IS OUTSTANDINGLY TALENTED, BOTH AS AN ENGINEER AND =
POTENTIAL ECONOMIST; HIS ATTITUDE TO HARD WORK IS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER, H=
IS LANGUAGE SKILLS IN NEPALI AND ENGLISH ARE EXCELLENT AND HE IS A YOUNG =
MAN OF THE GREATEST CHARM AND COURTESY.=0D
A COLLEGE OR COMPANY WILLING TO SPONSOR HIM WOULD NOT SO MUCH BE ACTI=
NG CHARITABLY AS INVESTING IN HIS OUTSTANDING TALENTS, THE LIKE OF WHICH =
ARE NOT FRETO BE FOUND IN THIS COUNTRY, LET ALONE NEPAL.=0D
(ARAVINDRA IS TO START MASTER IN ENGINEERING, ECONOMICS AND=
MANAGEMENT AT HERTFORD COLLEGE, OXFORD FROM SEPT 1998. HE IS STILL LOOKI=
NG FOR SPONSORSHIP) =0D
ARABINDRA,S ADDRESS: 170 BEVERLEY DRIVE, EDGWARE MIDDLESEX=
,HA85ND TELE+FAX: 0044(0) 181 90=
5 7195 =
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:22:22 -0500
From: shresthn@cisulab.uab.edu (Nischal Shrestha)
To: a10rjs1@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Welcome to the Graduation Party
Hi Rajpal dai,
How are you doing? Its been a long time. I will be graduating
in June7th/98. I am inviting you for the graduation party, in Birmingham,
Al.
Can you put the following message in the next coming TND? Can you
emphasize on the message?
I AM INVITING ALL THE PEOPLE/FRIENDS WHO KNOW ME FOR MY GRADUATION PARTY
WHICH IS GOING TO BE HELD ON JUNE 7TH 1998. PLEASE LET ME KNOW ASAP, SO
THAT THE PROPER ARRANGEMENT CAN BE MADE.
FOR FURTHER INFORMATION :
PHONE- 205 290 8283
shresthn@blazer.cisulab.uab.edu
Thank you
Nischal Shrestha
1039 Beacon Pkwy E
Birmingham, Al 35209
USA
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:59:55 +1000
From: Yagna Pant <Yagna_Pant-A13445@email.mot.com>
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Nepalses association
The Editor,
I was wondering if you would be able to publish the following
info in the next issue of TND. Thanks.
I am trying to find out if there are any Nepalese
association(s) in Chicago. If yes I would be grateful
if you could send contact details of the presidents,
etc.
Regards,
Yagna Pant, Tel: +61 2 96660569
Motorola Australia Software Centre, Fax: +61 2 96660579
Level 2, 12 Lord St.,
Botany, NSW 2019. email: Yagna_Pant-A13445@email.mot.com
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 17:23:46 -0500
From: shresthn@cisulab.uab.edu (Nischal Shrestha)
To: nepal@cs.niu.edu
Subject: Prakash
Hi folks,
I am looking for Prakash from Greensboro, NC. Let me know if
anyone knows his telephone number.
Nischal
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:47:01 +0530
From: "F. A. H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple" <hutch@wlink.com.np>
To: The Nepal Digest
Subject: But, only for the most sentient
FOR RAJAN PANTHI
A crow came and told me,
The other day
You were going.
I will miss you!
But, I see you
In the morning sun
Renewed!
In children's laughter,
In the OM of life!
You fly,
shout,
laugh,
pray,
play,
cry,
sigh,
live,
Again!
In the music,
conversation,
work, the
Thunder and lightening
Of existence!
You are 'hear'
With us now,
Never to be forgotten
In the message
Of courage,
You left behind!
'I will speak to you
When you are alone.
Be still,
Know that I am God!'1
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Copyright 1998,
F.A.H. Dalrymple
Lazimpat, Kathmandu
Nepal
The Vision of Enoch
OH CHILDREN! (for all those of Mr. Yogi's school)
Oh children,
I see God in your eyes!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
I feel the love in your hearts!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
I hear the OM in your voices!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
I know the future is yours!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
I feel your inquisitive natures!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
I love you back, with all my heart!
Make no mistake about it!
Oh children,
We will save the world together!
Make no mistake about it!
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Copyright, 1998
F.A.H. Dalrymple
Lazimpat, Kathmandu Nepal
MR. YOGI'S SCHOOL: 'Arise, Awake, stop not 'till the goal is reached!'1
By
F.A.H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple
Once upon a time in a life, you have a day where you're overwhelmed with a love you never get over!
I had such a day yesterday, when I was treated to the love of innocent faces, children gave me flowers, and I was asked questions about God, and the 'true meaning' of the Bhagavad Gita? I was treated with such respect as to feel unworthy.
Such a day I had at Mr. Yogi's school, the Hindu Vidyapeeth-Nepal school, of Balkumari (southeast Kathmandu).
But, in some ways I'm not surprised, the love I felt from these children at this school in Nepal... manifested by its founder and principal, Mr. C.M. Yogi!
There's an expression, that 'saints always tiptoe across the earth.' Here's an example of one, who has toiled in the 'vineyards' for fourteen years, volunteering in the beginning because he felt so strongly about teaching children the right things! It's a testament to his work that most of them, when I asked, want to be social workers (want to help other people)!2
The 'motto' of the school is by Swami Vivekananda: "Arise, Awake! Wake up yourselves and awaken others. Achieve the consummation of human life before you pass off! Arise! Awake! Stop not 'till the goal is reached!"
Every time I'm around Mr. Yogi, Swami Vivekananda's words echo in my mind: 'Arise! Awake! stop not 'till the goal is reached!'
How can I convey the honor of being invited to Mr. Yogi's school, this place of learning, love and respect? And to be given flowers by the children...
I stare at these flowers hours later in my room in Lazimpat, the gifts of little smiling gods, the bouquets made, with tiny hands... Like the school itself, first just a seed, a bud, a complex of buildings now, sprouting up, flowering to enlighten all those who can behold! 'Arise! Awake!'
Five years ago, there was only one building in a remote section of Patan, Balkumari (south across the Bagmati River from central Kathmandu). Now, one abandoned building is a hallowed place of learning.
But, the nine years before, this group wandered in a 'desert,' like nomads, Mr. Yogi like Moses.
There is a sign now over the front door of this building which reads, 'Watch your head!' It should warn you to, 'Watch your heart!' 'Arise! Awake!'
I'm shown photographs on the wall of students, documenting their activities, like field trips, to remote villages, where they learn about rural, tribal life.
"We want students to get a well-rounded education, and much of that comes from real-life experiences," explains Mr. Yogi.
The school has taken students to many parts of Nepal, with the aim of making them familiar with the different places, culture, traditions, and natural beauty of their own country.
They visited Karfok of llam, Biratnagar, Dhankuta, Hile, Dharna, Janakpur, Timkiya, and the Indian city, Darjeeling, last year.
And wherever they have gone the students have made the local inhabitants aware of their own nation and of their brotherhood through a variety of devices: plays, songs, speeches, and poetry.
Hanging on the wall in the original building there are many certificates of merit that these students have been awarded. This is no inter-city public school in America where remedial arithmetic is taught: Later during the assembly one of these students asks me how I know there is a God? I tell him I see God in their eyes!
'The students are good at poetry, language, writing, public speaking,' Mr. Yogi explains.
Some of the certificates/awards are (for the past academic year): 'First Position, Speech: National level competition organized by Relyukai, Nepal, 'Essay Competition: First Position. Organized by the Ministry of Tourism and Civil Aviation on the occasion of World Tourism Day, ' 'Speech (Colloquial) competition: Second Position, Valley Level Competition organized by the Nepal Children's Organization on the occasion of Childrens Day,' 'Quiz contest: First Position, organized by Nepal Television,' and there are many more...
All during this tour little people walk up hands clasped and greet me with, 'Namaste!' They 'salute' the God that brought me to this clean, organized, Spartan, yet heartfelt place of learning.
I am introduced to three young English women in red saris, 'volunteers,' Mr. Yogi explains. Is the world an interesting place, or not...? They are: Ms. Julia Crausay, Catherine Lusas, and Munira Blacking, all of the U.K., come to help teach the children! 'Arise! Awake! Stop not 'till the goal is reached!'
I'm introduced to Mr. Yogi's teaching staff, the kinds of teachers I wish I'd had as a child... The kind that obviously care, as their salary for a month, an American spends on dinner in a restaurant. I meet Mr. Om Bhakta Yogi, C.M.'s brother, Vishnu Bhakta Dangi, Ramesh Kumar Karki, and Chidananda Mahatman Yadav.
I wonder to myself if these children realize how lucky they are...?
I know how lucky I am to have met Mr. Yogi, a practitioner of Bhakti Yoga and a devotee of one of the great Hindu wise men of India, Swami Vivekananda: 'Arise! Awake!'
Mr. Yogi also points out a photograph of the patron saint of their school, Dr. Swami Prapannacharya.
But, Mr. Yogi talks more about love and spirituality than religion, and about the need to empower girls, in a country where it's culturally acceptable to relegate females to the most menial of tasks (I see women street cleaners in saris sweeping the streets of Kathmandu all the time). I tell him he's the first man in all of Nepal, since I arrived, that's addressed this issue!
Mr. Yogi explains to me what their long-term goals are, what they're trying to accomplish at Hindu Vidyapeeth-Nepal:
"HVP, as it's called, is operated by MSS (Matribhoomi Sevak Sangh), a socio-cultural organization with a non-profit motive. It provides residential and day-scholar facilities with round-the-clock supervision by a residential staff. It aims at producing academically brilliant students that have a full understanding of their own culture and traditional values.
"MSS intends to propagate such an ideal education that its demand will spread to all of Nepal. Accordingly, two branches have already been added, one in the eastern part of Kathmandu and one in Dang, in the farwest.
"Our plans are to extend HVP's education all the way to the 10+2 level; even to University level eventually.
"MSS has also planned to set up a comprehensive centre where there will be, in addition to a school, a hospital, nursery, a home for retired people, and an agricultural centre as well. And finally an International Peace Centre where spiritual discourse can take place.
In the meantime, they build at Balkumari, and from one building and a tenuous start, there are now three buildings, including a hostel (for boys), with one building under construction. All this, the vision of one person, yet the work and contributions of many people! 'Arise! Awake! Stop not 'till the goal is reached!'
The new building under construction has a deep, strong foundation, I'm told, by Mr. Ghanashyam Yogi, who is 'nurturing' it to life, evidence of the 'mental groundwork,' Mr. Yogi 'laid' fourteen-years ago. All of this beginning to 'bloom,' like the flowers I've been given!
They've spent already, 2-million rupees on the foundation and first floor of this building. Mr. G. Yogi, also makes a point to explain that the construction is going so well that they need to continue, that it's difficult to start and stop, raising money as they go along. How well I know from personal experience.
I look at the flowers the children have given me, all red and green with life, the remembrance of a day I'll never forget! I say a silent prayer that this group may continue to grow and 'blossom!'
I feel so alive in Nepal! So happy! It's hard to explain... It's like this is the culmination of my bodily life filled with new blessings every day, and filled with glories I only had an inkling existed!
In America it's a material existence, filled with artificial distractions (all the wrong gods) that keep you in a suspended limbo (maya). There's no real, loving life! Certainly, no 'Namastes,' from loving, polite, respectful children...
How can I explain to the assembled student body when later I'm asked the differences between America and Nepal... One is rich with $, the other rich in heart and soul! Can they understand?
The love I feel in Nepal I've never felt anywhere before... And I wouldn't trade it for fame, nor fortune, nor all the 'Oscars' and 'Emmys' there is to acquire! I wouldn't trade this life of 'poverty,' for all the gold in a country that's grown 'cold,' soul-less to me from over-materialization, money having become the God worshipped!
But, how do I explain this to most of the Nepalis I meet, who are 'dying' to go to America... 'All that glitters, is not gold!' I tell them! And how do I explain that I don't want to go back to America, yet can because I have an American passport? How do I explain, when they're 'dying' to go, but can't get a visa?
How do I explain the Soul that once was has abandoned America and now resides in places like Nepal, where they have so little in the way of material things (thank God), but so much in the way of loving hearts and souls. Can they possibly understand this...?
I have deduced in my 58-years of travelling, seeking, that there aren't Americans and Nepalis, only types of people: The kind that want to be there, and the kind that want to be here! You can have 'there,' I'll be 'here!'
Like the Buddha, 2,500 years ago, I've tasted all the 'fruits of paradise,' and behold they left a sour taste in my mouth! 'All that glitters is not gold!' my mother once told me.
I look at the flowers in my room, picked, arranged with little, loving hands. 'Namaste!' they chorus!
In the assembly room, packed with children, they sing songs, give speeches, recite poetry, and ask questions of me. They honor me! They ask me difficult questions... 'Why do I say these things about America, when it is my 'motherland?'
They are the hope of Nepal these, Mr. Yogi's children! They are the hearts and minds of the future! They are 'my' children in a way! They are 'your' children too! They are the sons and daughters of all of us!
Why should I have children of my own, when I'm already blessed with a 'family' of children all over the world?
Several children walk up to me after the assembly and grasp my hand, and ask me when I'm going to return... These are my children!
I smell the raw life in the flowers they have given me, picked for me, given with love... I smile all 'alone' in my room... 'Arise! Awake!'
I shall never have a lesser day surrounded by such caring, such 'poetry' (and not one word about sports)...
They (Mr. Yogi) have renewed my spirit, my soul, and I shall always be grateful! Grateful that on May 13, 1998, Wednesday, in Kathmandu, Nepal, that I visited Mr. Yogi's school!
'Arise, awake, wake up yourselves and awaken others! Achieve the consummation of human life before you pass off! Arise, awake, stop not 'till the goal is reached!' Swami Vivekananda
I don't intend to stop!
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Copyright 1998,
F.A.H. ('Hutch') Dalrymple
Lazimpat, Kathmandu
Nepal
Swami Vivekananda
In America they would want to be Bill Gates, or Michael Jordan, or make money!
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Date: Sun, 22 May 1988 12:57:10 +0200
To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu
From: Antonio Lucio Calero <lucioaj@galeno.medi.unican.es>
Subject: Spanish Brown Bear Foundation Research: perceptions
Dear sir or madam,
You will recall me writing to you regarding contacts in National Parks and
NGOs involved in the conservation of bears, on behalf of the Fundacion Oso
Pardo in Spain. Although I am still working on this project and look
forward to your reply, I have another I am presently involved with
concerning the perception of humans towards the bear around the world, and
how these perceptions have changed over time (from awe and respect, to fear
and loathing; from entertainment to medicine; from pest removal to
conservation... etc).
If you have any knowledge of this theme, know of any web-sites dealing with
it, or could suggest any references to do with attitudes towards the bear -
I would be most grateful to hear from you.
If you do not feel you can deal with this query, I understand and thank you
for your time; but it appears to me that in the world of bear research,
references are difficult to come by and information is often limited to the
knowledge of scattered people. For this reason I feel it is important to
make use of the internet and ask around - to ensure a far reaching and
accurate overview is acheived through my research.
I hope to hear from you again in the near future.
Yours with thanks,
Stuart
Stuart M. Whittington
Grupo de Investigaci=F3n Vida Silvestre
Departamento de Geograf=EDa
Urbanismo y Ordenaci=F3n del Territorio
Universidad de Cantabria
Avenida de los Castros S/N
39005 SANTANDER
Spain
Tel/Fax: + 942 20-19-36 (press 'Start' after the answerphone message)
E-mail: lucioaj@medi.unican.es=20
The Fundacion Oso Pardo website can be found at:
http://www.esegi.es/esegi/oso/hpage.html
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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 11:46:04 GMT
To: a10rjs1@cs.niu.edu (Rajpal J. Singh)
From: carin@gn.apc.org (H Brown)
Subject: "Selling of Innocents"
Hello Mr Singh,
I'm sorry I didn't see your inquiry until yesterday, when I found it in
Dejanews.
The trafficking page of our site at http://www.blue-fox.com/nepal is linked
to a page that advertises the video.
The info is:
> ASSOCIATED PRODUCERS
> 110 Spadina Avenue, Suite 1001, Toronto, Ontario M5V 2K4
> tel: (416)504-6662 fax: (416)504-6667 email:
>reunion@interlog.com
>
> Distributed by MALOFILM INTERNATIONAL
> 2221 Yonge Street, Suite 400, Toronto, Ontario M4S 2B4
> tel: (416) 480-0453 fax: (416)480-0501
But by now someone has probably sent you the info anyway...
Regards
Helen Brown
> Any folks know how to get a copy of this video journal?
>
>Source: India Today
>
>Danger is no stranger to Ruchira Gupta -- she's covered
>riots, famines, the demolition of the Babri Masjid. So
>when the 33-year-old journalist made Selling of Innocents
>-- a documentary on the trade in minor girls from Nepal to
>Mumbai -- it was simply part of the job. It brought her an
>Emmy Award for Best Investigative Journalism -- guess
>that's a professional hazard. Says Gupta, about the risks
>involved: "There was the constant fear of the Nepali mafia
>that benefits from the trafficking. Then our crew was
>attacked by the goons and pimps of Mumbai's brothels." The 47-minute film,
>incidentally, was made for the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation but it
>qualified for an Emmy -- that honours the best in American television -- only
>after it was telecast in the US. How does it feel to have made the grade? "I
>want this award to be a leverage to create a debate on the issue," says Gupta,
>now with the bbc. "The people I met said to me that Mira Nair became
>famous by telling their story in Salaam Bombay and then forgot about them. I
>promised them I wouldn't forget." We'll remember that.
>
>
>So long,
>RJPS
Helen Brown
carin@gn.apc.org
freespirit@innocent.com
http://www.blue-fox.com/nepal
Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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