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The Nepal Digest Wednesday 8 Jan 97: Paush 24 2053BS: Year6 Volume58 Issue1

       Happy and a prosperous New Year '97 to you and your beloved family!
                        - TND Foundation

Today's Topics:

                     An essay on privacy rights
                     Investment in Nepal
                     Seeking information concerning volunteerism
                     Learn ayurvedic medicine and Tibetan Med
                     Nepal News
                     Birth Place of Buddha
                     My trip to Nepal
                     Sending Money to Nepal!
                     Who polices the police!Police brutality

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****************************************************************** Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 09:56:31 From:[Bikash.Thapliya To: Subject: An essay on privacy rights

(Even though the word "privacy" does not appear at all in the text of the US Constitution, the exercise of privacy rights is taken very seriously by most Americans. In Nepal, even with our 1990 ko Constitution's explicitly guranteeing privacy rights for all, we seem to be not taking those rights seriously. I am sure all of you can think of instances when you felt that your privacy rights had been violated in Nepal.)
(Anyway, this piece here dwells on what I think is uniquely Nepali practice: The practice of publishing damaging notices on their ex-employees by private organizations and NGOs in Nepal. Though the ideas expressed here are mine alone, I have benefitted from stimulating conversations on this and other issues -- in Ghandruk and Bhaktapur -- with Yogendra Kayastha and Pravash Karmacharya.)
                            Taking privacy rights seriously
                                By Ashutosh Tiwari

        " . . .[T]he privacy of the person . . or information of anyone is inviolable." So is stated in Right to Privacy; Part 3, Article 22; The Constitution of the Kingdom of Nepal, 1990.
        "[Mr. X], son of [Mr. Y] has been expelled from [our] company." So said a paid notice -- put out by Mazda International Computech (MTC), a computer-software firm in Thapathali -- on the sixth page of The Rising Nepal on 30 June, 1996. In case the public did not know what Mr. X looked like, the MTC helped by publishing his mug-shot alongside the expulsion notice. Two days later, on 2 July, 1996, another paid advertisement appeared on the front page of The Kathmandu Post. This time, an international NGO, South Asia Partnership-Nepal (SAP/N), took it upon itself to inform "all concerned persons and offices that the service of [Mr. Z, a SAP/N program officer] is terminated with disgrace on the grounds of his indisciplinary acts". (Note: Real names changed to X, Y, Z in this essay.)
        In ways more than one, both notices were similar. Both were put out by non-public organizations (or NPOs, used here to denote both private companies and NGOs). Both alleged serious misconduct on the part of their departed employees. Both divulged the full names of those employees -- with one, in addition to printing the photo, even mentioning the expelled employee's address and also his father's name. Both ended with a warning that their respective organizations bore no responsibilities for any future dealings in which those ex-employees might have been engaged. And both raised three disquieting questions.
        First, how can the NPOs such as the MTC and the SAP/N apparently play both the prosecutor and the judge to deliver a PRIVATE verdict to the employees, and THEN, as if that were not enough, further condemn those employees by way of PUBLIC notices? Second, though the notices were ostensibly meant for "all concerned persons and offices", what would happen if unconcerned persons and offices (ab)used them to further humiliate and embarrass not only those ex-employees, but also their families and friends -- all of whom, one supposes, are bone fide private citizens, fully entitled to their rights to privacy? And third, once such damaging notices appear in public, should the NPOs that paid for them then be allowed to get away, as is often the case in Nepal, as though no violation of anyone's right to privacy occurred?
        I argue that the MTC and the SAP/N did violate their ex-employees' right to privacy, when they published potentially damaging information. I suspect that one reason why those organizations felt no qualms about publishing such notices is that they know how other NPOs have REGULARLY been getting away with similar notices in Kathmandu's newspapers -- facing no hue and cry, either from the press or from our more than 50 human rights organizations. And one reason for this is that the right to privacy is one of our least debated, and therefore one of our least understood fundamental rights.
        To be sure, in their defense, both the MTC and the SAP/N may claim that their notices were not meant to violate anybody's right to privacy, but to be used as: i) an act of public service, ii) a form of deserved public punishment for errant employees, and, iii) most importantly, the least costly way of informing their suppliers, clients, target-groups and donors. Such claims may sound plausible in totalitarian (or Panchayati) regimes where privacy rights are suppressed to promote some whimsical social goals. But in today's democratic Nepal, Constitutionally committed to take the privacy rights seriously, we in the public need not tolerate the NPOs' getting away with such facile excuses. Here are my reasons why.
        Take the excuse of 'service to the public'. By publishing damaging notices, NPOs claim that they are only warning the public how bad their ex-employees are, and therefore, why no one should associate themselves with those employees. Lofty though this may sound, the question here is: What gives these NPOs the right to be such a do-good 'social police force'? Their employees, after all, are all private citizens, drawing salaries from non-public sources, and therefore accountable only to managers and financiers of their organizations. Firing employees is one thing; bringing out advertisements with damaging information about the fired employees is another.
       In other words, unlike elected or appointed public officials, these employees are NOT accountable to the public at large for their day-to-day conduct INSIDE their organizations. That is why, when managers and shareholders fail to understand this distinction, and overstep their authority to extend it even to the news pages to publish potentially damaging notices about private citizens, then they do violate those citizens' right to privacy.
       If the NPOs are serious about using a public means to punish their private employees, then they should muster up courage go to the labor court in Lalitpur. Sure, going to the court may be a comparatively more expensive and time-consuming a process, but then the punishment, if handed out by the court, does become a legitimate public fact. Otherwise, there is no reason why we in the public should keep on tolerating the NPOs' themselves delivering a public verdict on fellow-private citizens by way of damaging notices.
        The NPOs may also claim that the notices are for the information of "concerned persons and offices". This claim too is bogus. Why? Think about this: When the NPOs can keep their other dealings with "concerned persons and offices" private, why can't they also keep these notices private? That is to say, what's stopping them from privately notifying those
"concerned persons and offices"? If doing so is expensive and time-consuming, then, again, what makes them decide that their employees' right to privacy, won after much struggle in 1990, is cheap enough to be violated on the pages of newspapers?
        Ultimately, however, the important issue of privacy aside, these damaging notices hurt the NPOs more than they hurt the departed employees. How? Because weeks and months after the employees have been expelled, more people who have read the notices, will more readily recall the names of the Mazda International Computech and the South Asia Partnership-Nepal in a negative light than those of their expelled employees.
[Originally published in The Kathmandu Post]

************************************************************* Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 16:41:19 +0700 To: nepal-request <> From: Chonlada Sapeeya <> Subject: investment in Nepal

Dear sir,

I am learning in the Faculty of Administration Business in the last semester and I am looking for some information to do a report to present to my teacher. It is a part of Project Management Subject. Could you do a favour to support the following infomation ?
  1. Are there any industry zone and any special condition for foreigner investor such as free tax ?
  2. How about the labour rate per month per person? (our project will do in Narayani of Chitwan District over 4 BHIGAS of land)
  3. Do you know what the meaning of "over 4 BHIGAS of land"? Please advise.

I am very appreciate for your kindness and looking forward to hearing from you. Please also recomment the other source if you cannot reply the above question. Thank you very much.

Sincerely yours, Chonlada
***************************************************** Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 01:16:03 PST To: From: Ted Dima <> Subject: seeking information concerning volunteerism

TND Foundation.
    I have just graduated from college (a B.A. in English Literature and a Minor inb Journalism) and am eager to find a position in Nepal where I could offer some of my energy, talent and strength. Please send me information at PO BOX 135
                  Waterford, ME 04088-0135. Thank You, Christopher M. Dima

*********************************************************** Date: Thu, 26 Dec 1996 21:44:00 GMT To: ('The Nepal Digest') From: CASNET!CASPOST! (Arthur Hrin) Subject: Learn ayurvedic medicine and Tibetan Med

We are recruiting students who would like to learn ayurvedic medicine and Tibetan medicine in Nepal. Ayurvedic medicne will be taught in the ayurvedic campus of Tribhuvan University and by practicing ayurvedic physician Dr. Kamdev Jha, who has been teaching at the ayurvedic campus and practicing ayurvedic medicine for over 37 years in Nepal.

Tibetan Medicine will be taught by local Tibetan doctors.

The practice of Himalayan herbal medicine offers solutions to many medical problems for which allopathic medicine has no effective treatment. Generally speaking these treatments are without side effects and do not require surgical solutions.

Preference will be given to medical practicioners currently practicing western medicine, (but including chiropractic and naturopathy). Persons with good science educations are also preferred.

Information can be obtained from us by internet response to this email address or to

Mail requests should be sent to Teaching Hospital Project Nepal American Friendship Center GPO Box 213 Buddhist Guest House -Thamel Kathmandu, NEPAL Telephone & fax 011-977-1-229-972

********************************************************** Date: Dece 25, 1996 To: TND (The Nepal Digest) Subject: Nepal News
                       Need of action against corrupt politicians (Source: Explore Nepal) Ram Chandra Gautam

In the name of down-trodden people some so-called people of backward communities have amassed a huge amount of property by massively misutilizing their highly advanced position and at the same time usurping their own peoples' rights by hook or crook. Such people seem not to be lag behind in even claming that due to their belonging to such communities they should in no way be brought to justice for their wrong-doings or grabbing money from the national coffers. If such persons were not granted immunity from such charges and were sued in court or anti-corruption bodies, they start yelling in a high-pitch sound that they are being brought to justice only due to their belonging to the down-trodden people's communities. Ex-minister for agriculture, Padma Sundar Lawati in Nepal and the chief minister of Bihar state in India, Lallo Prasad Yadav, fall under such a strange category.

The divergent points lying between them are only that the former is the first such a Nepalese minister who is for the first time being brought to justice after being sued in court by a constitutional body known as the CIAA (Commission Investigation of Abuse of Authority) and at the present moment does not hold any governmental position. On the other hand, the latter is facing the charges of corruption in the concerned court having been sued by the Central Bureau of Intelligence (CBI) and still holds the most prestigious and dominating position of the chief minister. In India dozens of high ranking personalities and leaders have already been brought to the courts for their wrong-doings. Apart from the afore mentioned divergent points between them there are some identical points, too. That both of them belong to the down-trodden communities and highly stand out from other persons of their own communities holding the very prestigious positions at present, that is very rare for the people of their own communities. Both of them are busying themselves while pretending to belonging to backward communities and putting pressures on the concerned institutions that the should not be charge - sheeted, otherwise it could be considered that people belonging to upper classes still are holding the same biased views to war such people. Laloo probably, represents the highest position of the Bihar state from such a community that is perceived to fall under an untouchable lower caste amongst a whopping majority of upper caste Hindus. He probably boasts himself to be the real representative of the lowest of lower classes as Mahatma Gandhi want to see fulfilled. On the other hand, Lawati, despite being a respectable citizen of a Hindu kingdom from a down-trodden community, doesn't fall under such an untouchable community. In Nepal too there are several communities that are still being looked as the totally untouchable castes and communities. Lawati belongs to Limbu community that had been, since time immemorial, given a great responsibility of handling land property of the entire ordinary people of the nation in the name of the Kipat system until a few years ago. In Nepal, under land reform system that was introduced some 30 years ago, no landlord is allowed to hold more than the prescribed land property for himself. However, Lawati himself boasts, having more than 20 Bighas of land property. Despite falling under such a rich personalities of the nation, Lawati presents such ridiculous reasons that proves him to be too shameless politician of Nepal. Lawati has been amassing a great sum of property since the time the autocratic Panchayat era was introduced some 35 years ago. Everybody knows how massively he has been indulging in corruption since that time nearly incessantly is very clear to every intellectual. Despite that still he seems not to be hesitant in claming that he is being brought to justice not because he indulged in corruption but because he belongs to the Limbu community. To some extent his claims can be judged to be true that despite being so many other corrupt Lawaties within his party and other political parties, including the cabinet ministers, no one either is brought to justice and harsh action and or is sued in any court on charges of committing corruption on a rampant scale. For instance, long rumoured corrupt ministers Khum Bahadur Khadka, Vijaya Gachhedar, Govindraj Joshi, Arjun K.C. Dr. Mahat, Chakra Banstola from the Nepal Congress, Gajendra from Sadbhavana Party and Buddhiman Tamang and others from the RPP are still holding the position of cabinet ministers. It is widely rumoured amongst Nepalese people that these ministers are being heavily safeguarded by Girija Prasad Koirala of Nepali congress and Surya Bahadur Thapa of the RPP. Only one cabinet minister, that is none other than Lawati, has been thrown into the trap of the court by Koirala and Thapa under a jointly hatched conspiratory scheme. Lawati's claim that entire corrupt ministers should be dealt with harshly without any partiality, Proves to be 100% correct. On the other hand, the dirty game initiated by Lawati by harping on the same strings that rekindles just horrifying communal feelings throughout the country can be judged only to be the most heinous activity of his political career. Hence, he should stop playing such a dirty game promptly at least for the well-being of democracy, the nation and the people and should start a hottest campaign for bringing entire ministers to justice without any delay.

Over 1 million child labour in Nepal (Source: The KTM Post) By a Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Dec 31 - Children rights in Nepal holds a dismal picture. At least this is what the Child Workers in Nepal Concerned Centre (CWIN), a pioneer organisation working in the field of child's rights and child labour in the country, says in its annual report published here today. According to the report, more than a million children in the country are believed to be engaged in child labour among which 60 per cent are working in high risk condition. Similarly, the number of street children in Nepal is also in the increasing trend. It now stands at an estimated 5000. The CWIN Socialisation Centre alone has registered 1,721 street children in the last five years. Every year about 700 to 1000 new children are found languishing in the streets of Kathmandu, the report says. Child trafficking across the border is equally pressing with and estimated 4000 to 5000 children, mostly girls, being trafficked into India and sold for prostitution and bonded labour every year. The 1996 CWIN newspaper survey reveals that out of 223 girls trafficked to India in one year, 89 were children below 16 years and 23 girls were rescued. Altogether 23 traffickers were arrested and prosecuted. Although the government claims 114 per cent success in polio vaccination drive, the child health situation in Nepal is still frail, shows the report. It says that measles, diarrhoea and pneumonia still account for more than 50 per cent of childhood diseases. According to the Ministry of Health under-five mortality rate is 118 per thousand. Other child concerns like education have yet to show a better picture. According to the report, which deals basically with the state of the rights of the child in Nepal in 1996, out of 71 per cent of the children enrolled in primary school, only half make it to grade five. At least 14 per cent of the children in grade one are underaged and 24 per cent of the children between 6 to 10 years old repeat at least one grade. The report also shows the state of other child issues like child marriages, children in delinquency, debt bondage, sexual exploitation, infant murder, suicide, rape and other like forms of child abuse. The Children's Act 1992 is the first comprehensive law for the protection of the rights of the children in Nepal. But child rights authorities are not happy about the implementation aspect of the Act. The CWIN report has termed the implementation of the Act as "not only ineffective in practice, but also unclear in a number of issues like child labour, administration of juvenile justice, protection and welfare of orphan and abandoned children and child adoption." The report points out that provisions regarding juvenile home, correction and observation homes and juvenile court have not been constituted yet. Despite a basically gloomy portrayal, the report has tried to bring forth
"inspiration of the year 1996 on the rights of the child." The government has submitted its initial report on the implementation of the convention on the rights of the child. Similarly, the tenth session of the House of Representatives ratified the ILO Convention-138 last October. The government also formed a high-level task force for the formulation of national policy for the promotion and protection of the rights of the child. Despite some consoling efforts on the part of the government, the report says that the experiences of the last few years of democratic practices have left more confusion than solutions.

Less than Rs 120 for commoners, lakhs for politicians (Source: The KTM Post) By a Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Jan 1 - The government spends less than Rs 120 annually on the health of each Nepali citizen. But it does not hesitate to open state coffers when it comes to doling out money to politicians for medical treatment. In an example of such official largesse doled out to politicians of various parties, the Home Ministry has been found to disburse over Rs 7.4 million to them - ostensibly for medical treatment. According to a report sent by the Ministry to the Public Accounts Committee
(PAC), in the seven month period from April to October last year, the Home Ministry disbursed Rs 7.41 million to 90 various political leaders and activists on the recommendation of the cabinet. The funds were distributed to enable the recipients to seek medical treatment both here and abroad, said the report. It however fails to mention the type of illness of the politicians which is a flagrant violation of rules laid down by the Auditor General's office. According to the PAC, the Ministry has disbursed money ranging from Rs 50,000 to Rs 200,000 to national level politicians as well as district activists of various political parties. Besides, Home Minister Khum Bahadur Khadka and Assistant Home Minister Dipak Banskota themselves have received Rs 1,50,000 and Rs 70,000 respectively for medical treatment. Among others who have received such funds are UML legislator Hikmat Bahadur Shahi (Rs 50,000), Nepal Sadbhavana Party MP Rameshwar Raya (Rs 168,4000) and former MPs Ganesh Prasad Rijal (Rs 75,000) and Ganesh Bhatta
(Rs 100,000). Dr Kumar Bahadur Joshi of Dhobidhara, Lalitpur, has also received Rs 200,000. The funds have also been disbursed to senior politicians such as Matrika Prasad Koirala (Rs 100,000), Dr Dilli Raman Regmi (Rs 200,000) and Tulsi Lal Amatya (Rs 1,50,000). Despite rules laid down by the Auditor General's office while making such donations, the Home Ministry has not supplied the reason other than
"for medical treatment", nor has it mentioned the type of illness afflicting the politicians.

KALEIDOSCOPE (Source: The KTM Post) Of chicks, chicken chillies and booze

KATHMANDU - "You know, I had three bottles of beer yesterday. I barely managed to reach my house. My boyfriend had to drop me in front of my house. The get-together was a real booze-up." This is not a film dialogue but a conversation taking place between two girls overheard by this scribe from across the table in a busy gazal restaurant where they were having beer and chicken chillies. Believe it or not but the fact is that beer boozing is getting very popular among young Nepali girls in the Kathmandu valley in the recent years. Sipping beer from a glass or gulping it down out of a can or a bottle by teenage girls has become a fashion in Kathmandu. "The question is not who drinks or what some one drinks but what matters is personal pride as beer is freely served to anyone without legal restriction," says Sabita Shrestha, a college goer. "But the government should make a law to ensure beer and other alcohol drinks out of teenagers' reach." Unlike in other countries, Nepal has no law to restrict the selling of alcoholic items to persons below age 18. In the USA, tha age bar is 21 and in Canada, it's 19. Because of lack of law, youngsters have been addicted to drinking beer and other hard drinks."
"I drink beer because it's a soft drink. All my friends have it in the party and restaurant with their boyfriends,why should not I," says Jamuna Chettri, another college girl. Beer seems to have gradually been accepted in our society by girls as a soft drink like Pepsi or Coke. According to some girls questioned by this scribe, they are encouraged to have it by their family members, friends and boyfriends. Normally beer contains minimum six percent alcohol. However, in some Nepalis beer percent goes up to 13. At the recently held Singha Rock and Roar concert, one could see girls virtually competing with boys in drinking beer. This sight was certainly surprising if not scandalising for many. Earlier boozing beer by girls in a restaurant used to be a very rare sight one could see. Even if they did, it would be a formal occasion like party. But now in every restaurant, you could see girls boozing beer with their boyfriends, without any feeling of shyness or embarrassment. In a recently organised party, this scribe say a few girls gulping beer out of bottles, and some of them were as young as 16 years old. "Beer boozing has been an act of imitation. I don't know why their parents are letting them to booze beer freely" says Vishnu Maya Gurung. Because of excess boozing, followed by repeated sexual abuse, a teenaged girl has died recently in a hotel in Sitapaila. This is not a single case that has taken place because of beer and alcohol. "Girls have to be more careful than boys in drinking beer as it may sometimes lead them to such a point where they won't get anything except molestation and rape," says Hema Bantawa,a college goer. "We should not have it at the insistence of our friends or boyfriends. We have to think ourselves whether we are doing the right thing or not before having beer or other drinks. It affects adversely our career and life ahead," she says. Many feminist groups have recently raised their voice against male-alcoholism, treating it as a social menace. But is it not the right time to turn their attention towards their own folk first before making any comment to their male counterpart? No matter whatever small their size may seem to be, a problem is a problem and should be treated as one. It's very difficult to say how many girls drink beer without a survey result. But it has become inevitable to do a survey on the subject to find out the facts and figures about women-boozing.

Voices raised for legalizing abortion (Source: The KTM Post) By a Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Dec 30 - Participants of a collaborative meeting for empowerment of women today stressed the need to legalize abortion. They said only poor and uneducated women are bearing the brunt of illegal abortions while the well-heeled who can afford the safety of clinics and nursing homes are getting away with the same illegal acts. The fact that over 80 percent of female inmates in Nepali jails are convicted of carrying out illegal abortions on themselves is a witness to the woes caused by the absence of legal provisions for abortion, they argued. According to Dr Bhola Rijal, the country's maternal mortality rate, one of the highest in the world, can be cut by half if adequate measures are introduced to ensure safe abortion and safe delivery.
"Political parties too agree that abortion should be legalized but when it comes to taking decisions, they just back away," said Upper House member and president of Family Planning Association of Nepal (FPAN), Sunil Kumar Bhandari. In the last session of the House, Bhandari presented a bill on abortion in the Upper House but it is still pending there. It failed to make headway after being received with hostile greetings from the conservative sections of the society. " There is a huge discrepancy between sloganeering and practice," Bhandari said of political parties. Highlighting the need for legalized abortion, advocate Sapana Malla said that since single mothers and illegitimate children have no legal and social status, the abortion bill should be passed as soon as possible. Malla also asserted that as long as abortion is not legalized, discrimination against women will persist. Commenting on the bill, feminist writer Amrita Baskota said legalized abortion should not be a family planning tool. The one-day meeting was held under the aegis of the FPAN.

Poet Sherchan remembered (Source: The KTM Post) By a Post Reporter

KATHMANDU, Dec 25 - A literary programme was organised here today to mark the 62nd birth anniversary of late poet Bhupi Sherchan. Organised by Unayan Pariwar which publishes Unayan literary magazine, the programme was attended by a galaxy of literary figures. Talking about the contribution of Bhupi Sherchan, the senior poet Kedar Man Vyathit said that the poems of Bhupi have represented the contemporary age of the country. He expressed whatever he saw without hiding anything, Vyathit added. Another senior poet Madav Prasad Ghimire and poet and lyrcist Kali Prasad Rizal also spoke on the contribution of Bhupi Sherchan. On the occasion poet Laxman Lohani and Kashi Raj Neupane read out their poems. Chairman of Unayan Pariwar and editor of Unayan Magazine Achut Ramana Adhikari also highlighted contribution of Bhupi saying that Unayan's first special edition was started with Bhupi's. The programme was chaired by poet and academician Baigrai Kainla. On the occasion, Kanta Sherchan, the wife of late Bhupi Sherchan was also present.


*********************************************************************************************** From: (rajeev khatry) Date: Wed, 25 Dec 1996 22:48:59 -0600 To: (The Nepal Digest) Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - December 25, 1996 (10 Poush 2053 BkSm)

I would like to wish each and every Nepali in the U.S Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Sincerely, Rajeev Khatry

****************************************************************** Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 14:32:51 +0545 (+0545) To: From: Rudolf Guthier <> Subject: Birth Place of Buddha

Dear Shyam, you take matters to far. As long as the good professor says that the Lord Buddha has been a descendent of Kapilvastu and was born at Lumbini he is right. There was no Nepal then. They could of course have added "in what is now Nepal".

best regards

***************************************************************** Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 11:57:32 -0400 To: The Nepal Digest <> From: (Namita Kiran) Subject: poem

        The Quest

Searching, Seeking_____. Flashing neon lights, stream of bodies
  in and out, constantly. Clouds
  from well-lit ciigarettes Gyrating bodies
  buzzzzz... Laughter.
  Well-painted lips, perfumes, colognes. Entertained ______or, are you? Seeking, searching
  the illusion (?)
 Begging. Disappointed ______or, are you? Stench
  from alcohol. Well-smoked shirt!
  trying to shake off
  bad breath _____ Red sun in the horizon. Searching, seeking, looking ______

Namita Kiran

************************************************************ To: From: (Debendra Karki) Subject: Happy New year !!! Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 03:51:23 +0000

We would like to wish all the Nepali folks around the world a prosperous , eventful and happy new year 1997.

With regards ,

Debendra , Sindhu , Chitij , Pratik Karki and Roshi Kadariya Palmerston North New Zealand .

HAPPY NEW YEAR 1997: By Roshi

The shrill high pitched sound of the Alarm clock penetrated Inside her torpid ears Forcing her exhausted eyes to Welcome a brand new day .

She turned the light on It was four in the morning Yet , another day to torture Her petite and petty soul .

Next year ......yeah... It's going to be all over She felt a sense of anticlimax Condemned in a world Books , books and nothing but books .

It was the last year left to go for high school A real threat for a wee little girl like her Well , she believed it was time to grow up now Just a sweet thought to be a year wiser was Enough to let herself go with the wind .

Next year would be another year of challenges for her Another year opening doors to success and Planting new dreams and opportunities for her .

Then again it will be sweet paybacktime For all the tedious days and sleepless nights That she had worked hard for Her days will be returning then , rewarding her For the times she had smiled with patience Mind you , your days will be returning back too some day , some how .

So , It's his , her's , our's , their's Your's , mine and The entire jing- bangs New year resolution :


For a jovial 'n' oh-so-good New Year .

**************************************************************** Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 22:32:15 -0400 To: From: (leather tongue) Subject: My trip to Nepal


I am writing as a first time traveler to Nepal. I want to know what kind of computer resourses exist. Where can I go as traveler, without a computer, who wants to set up an e-mail account and be able to check mail regularly? I assume that there will be a fee, how much does it usually cost to use a computer in Nepal? My resources are limited and my time frame is a year.

Also, I am interested in staying in nepal longer than the usual 5 months. I would like to recieve a extended visa up to a year. Do you have any suggestions? I know these questions are going to take some time to explain, I really appreciate your response. I am planing to leave Jan 20th and arrive in Nepal mid march. I will be in Malaysia for 1 month and then India. I have gotten alot of valuable information from reading your digest. Thanks alot for your time and resources.

Debra Muncaster Thanks The Tongue

***************************************************************** Date: Fri, 27 Dec 1996 22:09:09 +0700 To: From: Shrestha Purushottam <> Subject: address of J. Subedi

Hello TND: Wish you all the best for Happy new year 1997. I am interested to have e mailadress/ fax / tel# of one my USA settled Nepali friend called JANARDAN SUBEDI, an ecnomist. I request the TND for a search out . I will be grateful to TND or any body who will furnish the information at the latest. Thanks for cooperation Best Regards Surendra Subedi Email C/O; Fax. 00431 313 36 705

****************************************************************** From: karma@MIT.EDU To: Subject: Birth Place of the Lord Buddha: An Unrepairable Mistake by a Dictionary Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:46:21 EST

Dear Editor,

The definition of Buddhism in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary does not give the impression that Buddha was born in North India. All it says is that Buddhism was founded by Buddha in North India, which I believe, is correct. Siddhartha got his enlightment in Bodh Gaya, which laid the foundation of Buddhism.

Rabi Karmacharya

****************************************************************** Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 17:44:14 -0500 (EST) From: SURAJ BASNET <> To: Subject: Please pass on the following message:

Submit your article to:

        Kshiteez (The Horizon) Newsmagazine
        A magazine of the youth

The Nepali Youth Organization's Kshiteez Magazine is currently soliciting articles for its January issue. Please contribute essays, poems, and information relevant or of interest to the youth and the Nepali community. Articles should not exceed three pages, double spaced. The electronic version of the first edition (published in October, 1996) is available at

Thank you. Editoral Board Kshiteez Newsmagazine

Postal Address:

Kshiteez Publications c/o Nepali Youth Organization P.O.B. 10422 Arlington, VA 22210

****************************************************************** Date: Tue, 31 Dec 96 23:40 +0100 From: (Schmidt) Subject: Please help me! To:

Dear Editor and Readers,

I am searching for ***Kabindra Man Pradhan***. He is about 30 years old. I met him during his stay in Germany from 1992/1993. He studied economics in Kathmandu.

Since about one year I never heard of him. Another friend from Kathmandu also lost contact to him.

Do you perhaps know him? Then it would be great to send me his

Thank you very much Markus Schmidt

****************************************************************** Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:02:05 -0600 To: From: Subject: Sending Money to Nepal!

Hi everybody!
        I have to send some money to my friend in Kathmandu to have him send me some stuff from Nepal..Kukris etc. Can anyone suggest how best to send him some money? Is there a safe and secure way to do it? If anyone has any knowlwdge about this matter, please e-mail me! Thanks for the help!

Suren Angelo State University, San Angelo, Texas

************************************************************* Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:14:33 -0500 To: From: (Anil Tuladhar) Subject: Re: (no subject)

Angtam ( wrote:
: Since no has posted anything on the outcome of the recent no-confidence
: motion in Nepal's parliament, I assume the SCN netters keeping their eyes
: and ears keeping close to the events in Nepal must be taking time to
: recover from this disgusting event which was marred by scrupulous and
: dishonorable activities of our elected members of the parliament.
: There are many issues that need to be brought up with regard to this
: event.

: But, first, let me bring up an issue whether or not that is related to
: the motion placed on the parliament. How could the government justify
: sending six ministers to Bangkok at the same time for a health check up
: when millions of its people do not have access to basic health care? Is
: this government any different from the Panche government which used to
: send priviledge few and their relatives to Bangkok and other places for
: vacation in the name of health check/up shameless using the public funds
: meant for the poorest in the world? Shame on the government. This is
: another spending spree after the Diwali shopping trip to London? More on
: this later. I would like to hear from you.

: Happy holidays.

I was also wondering, how could this happen in a democratic country?! How could those responsible leaders allow these things to happen? The plain answer to all these questions is, we still do not have any responsible leader. Jo jogi aaye pani kanai chireka!

When I was in grade 2, my political hero was no other than shree 5 mahendra. His poems, mahabanis and serious looking pictures were some of my favorite things. I used to recite "Hamro pyaro rajale ke bhaneko suna.." His song "Garchhina pukar aama.." touched me so much that I decided to devote whole my life to do something to alleviate the abject poverty of nepalese people. I used to think every night how could I help my dear king to build a better nepal. I used to cry thinking that mahendra must have taken these things seriously and must be working very hard to solve the problem. As he beautifully depicted in his song,
"kasaiko chha suna ko thali, kasaiko chha pata khali.." or "Some have golden plates while others have empty leaves..", I got worried. I knew he himself had the golden plate while other poor nepalese did not have even to eat on leaves. This realization might turn him into a saint. I did not want my dear king to become a saint and wander in a jungle. So I was very worried. Then one day I heard that my dear king died of a heart attack. My heart also stopped beating for a while. I felt dizzy and did not eat anything for hours. As I grew up, I decided to keep the mission of mahendra alive by encouraging every nepali to work really hard and also to work towards a social justice. His song "garchhin pukar aama .." was inculcated in my heart so wanted others too to know how great my king was. I decided to gather some more concrete evidence to prove my kings' greatness regarding his realization of the in-equal distribution of wealth and fortune among the nepalese people. But unfortunately I could not find austerity measures being taken in the royal family. Instead I heard a rumor that the king had an account in a foreign bank. This and a few other rumors killed my hero. I repented two nights eating nothing again.

        Then I saw another saint Krishna Prasad. Kishun ji was a perfect leader. I looked at this leader with a great respect. This celebate leader was so straight and liberated that he even wished a victory to a communist rival. His selfless interviews in NTV impressed me very much. But his failure to win the election and his later irresponsible remarks regarding the political chaos in Nepal made me sad again.

        My another hero Padma Ratna is equally interesting. This hero cried twice in the parliament. I was just looking this type of patriotism. His patriotism was so strong that he could not resist his tears seeing the Brahmaloot of nepal aama. I voted him twice and both the time he won. But I am still waiting to see his contributions. I am just wondering why could not this person come to a lime-light?
        Such is the story of my search for a good leader. If you have any good, live political leader in your mind, please let me know so that I could make him my hero and analyze him to death.


********************************************************* Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 10:36:12 EST To: From: Subject: Happy New Year

Floowing is the article attached about the carpet industry in nepal. This is response to the complain put forth by Mr. Tamang about Tibetan and the carpet Industry in Nepal.

Please publish this in next TND issue.

Thanx and HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the staffs of TND and its subscriber. Tsering

I appreciate your concern about carpet industry in Nepal. However, what you have mentioned are not true. And more input from your side in this regard will be highly appreciated. I just want to point out few things which might benefit you. As far as I have known about carpet industry, nothing of such sort exist in the carpet industry. Of course, you cannot compare to Western Standard= There are numerous problems in many industries in Nepal. But comparing with them, the issues regarding carpet industry is very minimal. = I remember the weaving salary per square meter demanded by workers was Rs= 300 during the new government in 1990. However, I just heard last week that the workers on average are paid Rs. 400 per m2. I think this is an excellent. Believe me, most workers make more money than their husbands w= ho goes to office. As far as medical benefits and treatment of employees are concern, many T= ibetan owners take very good care of their workers. Many are admitted to = hospitals and paid by themselves. Moreover, in emergencey cases, I have s= een many owners taking their sick workers to the hospitals in the middle = of the night. In fact I have never seen working combinations of employers= and employees like this. You may not know, but small carpet factory owne= rs invite their workers to home. They eat together and watch TV together = sometimes. Do you think other than Tibetans would do that? NO WAY. Becasu= e Tibetan people were also treated like a lower caste and they went thro= ugh similar process 15-20 yrs ago. But they changed that conception by wo= rking hard. At least they are given respect now. They have set up factor= ies and looms in almost every tole in Kathmandu. They even deliver yarns = and materials to employees at their location so that employees don't have= to. And I think it is wrong to use the word EXPLOITATION. Right now there are= over 400,000 people who have benefited directly and more than million indirectly. Most of the employees didn't have a chance to go to school. For them, this has provided a much needed source of income for the family= Many former workers have become entrepreneurs. And I am very happy to= see them being successful. Again, many people see these former carpet wo= rkers enjoying life. But they don't see them working hard for years to earn the money. Most importantly, I think the carpet industry has helped stop the flow of= our sisters to India somehow. And of course, there are other industries which pollute and damage our environment all over the valley. In conclusion, carpet indsutry is the much needed one for Nepal and lets try to improve and make it better.We have enough people commenting on th= e problems. And I think it is time we do something. If the leaders in respected fields co-operate and guide them, I am sure people in the industry will be willing to invest in order to improve our lives. And talking about child labor, what do you think of those 200,000 sisters sol= d illegally in brothels in India. You may not know that majority of them = are from the area where carpets weavers coming from. Any children workin= g in any type of factory is better than for the situation of those sister= s in India. Lets talk about that and see how we can help them. I am sure = this is one of many ways carpet industry can play some role for them. =

I hope to hear more from your side. HAPPY NEW YEAR. Tsering

****************************************************************** To: Subject: Who polices the police!Police brutality Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 13:55:56 EST Forwarde by: rshresth@BBN.COM

Cross-posted from SCN:

The police brutality is rampant in Nepal even after the dawn of democracy. Innocent people have been subject to torture,electrocution, fractured bones from severe beating,mutulation and excessive psycological damages. Once you are under police custody, you are not a suspect, but a creminal. No one has dared to speak on the behalf of the people for the misuse of the pwer and brutalities of the police even everyone have known for years. The politicians, intellectuals and business leaders so far have been complacent to this savagery. Why innocent people have to suffer on the hand of illiterate, ignornat and if not, stupid police? why silence, why doesn't someone do something about it?

Contemplating on this disturbing thoughts, I can only guess why no one question the police. The politicians, having their own connections and privileges, do not experience police brutality and harassment, so they don;t care what happens to the people who don't have connection. The intellectual communities like wise is apathetic because they, too, fall under the umbrella of family connection and political ties.The business groups are free of wories because they have the resources to get what they want. So in the absence of political voice, resources and the implementation of the due process of law, its the poor who suffer the most and injustice continues to arise. If the leaders faild to address these pravailing issues, it will not only deteriate judicial system, but the very moral force of our legal system and will result in more police brutality. In essence, the challage lies to the future of Nepal's democracy on the particepation and representation of the people on and off line more... So everyone don't be chicken, say something, say anything to the discussion maybe the police genereal will read and black list you or it will enlighten him to make necessary change. Jai Nepal!!!everyone!!! Happy New Year!!!

Cross-posted from SCN:


I was one of those who had responded to your post earlier... I am having trouble emailing to your address this time, so I thought I would post to you via this group.

I am a microbiologist (PhD) with extensive teaching experience, and my husband is a research biochemist. We are not Nepali-- but we are in the process of adopting a Nepali girl, and care about Nepal very much. We had thought about possible work opportunities in Nepal, so that my husband could take sabbatical there-- but felt that there would not be any opportunities for someone with his background training. Your post gives me some hope that in the future, his services (or mine) might be of some use in Nepal. We would love to have a reason to live and work there for a year or so, so that we and the girls would be able to spend time in the country, and help out on the road to its development.

Please reply to me personally, I would love to correspond on this, Ruth Gyure,

Cross-posted from SCN:

       This is a very interesting topic to discuss. While in the University I happened to talk to a friend about Mt.Everest. I told him it belongs to Nepal. To my surprise my another friend from mainland China interupted and told me that it belongs to China. Then we started discussing about the border problems that existed before China took over Tibet etc. etc. From the primary school we have been taught that Mt. Everest belongs to Nepal. Similarly my chinese friend was also taught in the school that it belongs to China. Now who is right?

       Before China took over Tibet Nepal never had to worry about the border problem. It was almost like a "no man's land" kind of hostile territory with very few scattered settlements and pastureland in the high altitudinale valleys. It was a open border between Tibet and Nepal. The actual demarcation line never existed. Later on after China took over Tibet, Nepal had a very hard time in settling the border dispute and one of the area was Mt. Everest. Later on I found out that the actual demarcation line now agreed upon by Nepal and China passes through the top of Everest which means top of Everest belongs to Nepal and China as it is the point of demarcation line.This means China doesn't need nepalese permission to climb Mt. Everest from Tibetside. Likewise Nepal doesn't need chinese permission to climb Mt.Everest from Nepal side. Is this the fact? Does anybody have a better idea how the demarcation line goes?

Gopal Dongol

Cross-posted from SCN:

Mt. Everest belongs to Nepal. There is no doubt about it. Your Chinese friend is wrong. The problem of Mt. Everest controversy was solved in 1960 during the Prime MInistership of B.P. Koirala in Nepal.

Mt. Everest was disputed by China during the state visit of Chinese Premier Zhou En-Lai in 1960. B.P. disagreed. Zhou tried to outmanoever B.P. by asking that if it belongs to Nepal it must have its own name suggesting that in China it is called Chomolongma(in Tibetan). It was a very shrewed question, indeed, because Nepal had no name of its own in Nepali. Somehow, B.P. advisor's came up with the name "Sagarmatha" and quieted the Chinese. Zhou En-Lai then proposed to settle this controversy by going through the historical records of expeditions. The records showed that the climbers had taken permission from Nepal while climbing from the southern side and from Tibet while climbing from the northern side. As the top of the Everest is bent towards Nepal it was decided that southern slope and the top belonged to Nepal while the northern slope belonged to China (Tibet).

I hope this helps to understand the controversy.

Chitra Tiwari

********************************************************** Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 20:33:10 EST To: From: Subject: Nepal-School

This year I funded the building of a school in Maling, Nepal. You can find it in my elephant polo pages at:

It's under "Lurie's journal".

All the best, Alf Erickson

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