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The Nepal Digest Monday 23 Jan 95: Magh 9 2051 BkSm Volume 35 Issue 13

  Today's Topics:

        1. TAJA_KHABAR
                 News From Nepal
        2. KURA_KANI
                 Education - Re: Budhanilkanta and Resources
                                Re: F2 Visa Denial
                 Environments - Re: Arun III
                 Social - This and That
        3. JAN_KARI
                 Nepali Association in Manila
        4. CHOOT_KILA
                 Sattaires - Top 10 Mystries
       
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********************************************************************** From: Bimal Adhikari <BADHIKARI@UBmail.ubalt.edu> Subject: Top Ten List To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu Message-Id: <01HM2OAXCU02000VV9@UBmail.ubalt.edu>

                        Top Ten Mysteries on SNC and TND

1. Who is this guy(girl?) Panther? Why did he/she name Panther
    in the first place! why not Bison, Lasha Apso or Kangaroo.

2. Who is this person "Jai Maharaj" in SNC who stirs the pot
    occasionaly. Is he a head priest of Changu Narayan or the
    acquaintance of Panther who met him in Shiva Puri while
    looking for Marijuana plant.

3. Anyone knows about these Human Rights Committee - USA guys?
    Umm.. who is funding their project. Can I also get some
    portion of that grant pie.. my human rights areseverely
    violated too. Some of them have even Phd's . Ashu, who are
    are these self-declared "intellectuals"? Are they "experts"
    who claims to know right thing for everybody?

4. I would like to know who "Daya" and "Raju" are from the
    matrimonial section. They seem like cool guys. Hey, when are
    are you guys throwing a party??

5. What's going on with the "Clarkian Gangs"?? Where are you guys
    hibernating? Amulya, please tell us more about the land reform
    history of Nepal and etymology of the word "putali".

6. Eknath Belbase ji, I know you are cool but why did you added
    (math grad) by your E-mail address?? By the way, I am taking
    a Calculas class this semester, can I send you an E-mail If
    I cannot solve some equations. Could you please enlighten TND
    readers on your (math graduate) curriculams??

7. Is Pepsi really chaper than wine in Nepal?? Shirly Chung, where
    did you get this information from?? I bet Panther must have
    sent you this information. Is wine synonymous to "Tharra"( I mean
    in Nepali term) then you may be right. Wine makers new advertising
    slogan in Nepal:"You got the right wine babe.."

8. Gyanaswar, I like your parables. You are quite a story teller.
    Do you have any moral stories on Cat and the Crow, Snake and
    the Eagle, Grasshoppers and the ants. We would like to hear some
    of those stories.

9. My friend is going to Nepal next month, can anyone tell me how
    can I contact his through E-mail? Suggestion: Read "Zen and the
    art of communicating a person in Nepal through Internet". Frank
    Kroger, I need your help to market this book in Ramechap district.

10. Hey, Mr. "silent do good", why don't you get out of the old and
    get to the cold. If you believe your rights are violated, contact
    Human Rights Committee - Nepal guys. Or if they are no solace to
    you, then just go back to Nepal and drink wine instead of Pepsi.
    Take Panther along though, he goes to Nepal to party!!

All right folks, so much for the Top Ten mysteries. I am exhausted with my mystery list. It is time to send an E-mail to Eknath Belbase(math grad). I just got stuck while I was trying to solve my Calculas homework.

Dear Eknath,

I am falling and I cannot get up..

Bimal Adhikari

******************************************************* Date: 20 Jan 95 17:20:18 EST From: Rajendra.P.Shrestha@Dartmouth.EDU (Rajendra P. Shrestha) Subject: News1/17-20 To: nepal@cs.niu.edu

Two die in RNAC crash Excerpts from Xinhua, DPA, UPI and Reuters reports

    The captain and one passenger died when a twin-otter Royal Nepal Airlines aircraft crashed Tuesday afternoon at 1:59 p.m. into a rice field and burst into flames while trying to take off from Kathmandu airport. The 23 other people on board were injured. Four - including the co-pilot and an Australian woman tourist - were said to be on the danger list. The plane was headed for Rumjatar, 130 kilometers east of Kathmandu.

   According to an airport security officer, the accident happened when the plane started to take off from the runway but failed and hit the runway with its head. ''Minutes after it took off, the aircraft landed onto a field about 150 meters (164 yards) north of the airstrip. The right wing was completely broken,'' a civil aviation official said. Officials said the aircraft's nose, wings and the undercarriage were badly damaged. The pilot, Capt. Ran Singh Gurung, was killed at the crash site while a passenger, Ambar Bahadur Karki, died in hospital. The plane had 22 passengers and 3 crews. The injured were being treated at two hospitals in the Nepalese capital.

   "I thought the plane was about to take off. Then I heard a peculiar sound and then the plane crashed," said Denju Dahal, a young mother who, along with her 18-month-old baby, was being treated for head injuries.

Nepali police arrest six Sri Lankans
[Updated report] Excerpts from UPI and Xinhua reports

   Immigration police in Nepal have arrested six Sri Lankans accused of operating a human smuggling operation, officials said Tuesday. Home Ministry officials said the group had been using forged visas and passports to illegally send people to various parts of the world. Police raided a house in suburban Katmandu and arrested six Sri Lankans who had been living in Nepal illegally for the ''last four to five years,'' the home ministry said. Head of the gang, Alfred Reghdhi, has been involved in the illegal activities in nepal for four or five years under the Indian name of Janardan Shanker. During the raid, the immigration department seized 23 fake passports of various countries, seven embossing machines, 175 rubber stamps used for issuing visas of various countries, fake visa stickers numbering 49, blank foils for passport of various countries, said the spokesman. The ministry did did not say whether the Sri Lankans were Tamils or Sinhalese. Indian press reports have in the past linked Tamils living in Nepal to the Tamil sepatarist movement in the island republic. The ministry said the leader of the gang was living in Nepal under an Indian alias. The immigration police recovered forged passports, visas, embossing machines and false documents from the home, ministry officials said.

Nepal Bank strike Continues

Excerpts from UPI report

   A strike at Nepal Bank Limited severely affected operations Tuesday and presented a crucial test of the recently installed communist government's ability to handle labor issues. The strikers from the bank, which has over 200 branches and 7, 000 employees are demanding the implementation of demands that were agreed upon seven months ago. ''We reject the unilateral (wage) offer anounced Saturday by the management,'' said Nepal Bank Employees Secretary Kiran Shrestha. Management unilaterally had offered the employeesf the equivalent of $2 million to be distributed among employees and a monthly $6 allowance. The employees have rejected the offer and want a monthly increment instead. The NBEA is close to the communist government, but the strike is also backed by the Nepal Financial Institution Employees Association, which is close to the opposition Nepali Congress.

Nepal proposes dates for Bhutan talks Excerpts from UPI and Xinhua reports

   Nepal has proposed ministerial-level talks with neighboring Bhutan sometime between Feb. 27 and March 2 to resolve the issue of 100,000 Bhutanese refugees languishing in refugee camps in Nepal, the nation's Foreign Ministry said Tuesday. Nepal has not received a reply from Bhutan for the proposed fifth round of talks, the ministry added.

   Meanwhile, speaking in parliament, the deputy PM and foreign minister Madhav Nepal said that Nepal wants progress, prosperity and democracy in Bhutan but the Nepalese government will not remain tight-lipped if anyone attempts to oppress Nepalis. ''The government is seriously taking the issue of the Bhutanese refugees. We are ready to seek cooperation of all, including India, in resolving the problem.'' In even stronger terms, Nepal said, ''The refugees should be allowed to return in a dignified manner to their homeland and we will not be a silent spectator if they once again subject them to torture in that country.''

  The deputy PM also accused the previous Nepali Congress government of not giving the refugee issue priority. ''The refugee problem is created by Bhutan and not be Nepal, '' the foreign minister said, accusing Bhutanese authorities of torture and forced evictions. He said that he will bring up the refugee issue with India during his visit to New Delhi next month.

  The deputy PM also informed the House that the government has initiated efforts through foreign ministry level, not only through home ministry level, to resolve the bhutanese refugee problem, adding a team including the foreign ministry had been formed under the leadership of the home ministry to deal with the problem. Four rounds of talks have been held between Nepal and Bhutan without much progress. The fifth round, scheduled for September 1994 was postponed due to mid-term polls in Nepal.

Committee formed to Investigate Crash
    An eight-member investigation committee of the nepali government has been formed to investigate the air crash at tribhuvan international airport. the government made this decision after the council of ministers held an emergency meeting tuesday following the mishap at the airport of the capital city. A twin-otter aircraft operated by RNAC crash soon after take-off on Tuesday, killing two injuring 22 on board. According to a passenger undergoing treatment in hospital, the aircraft crashed about a kilometer from the airport after it failed to gain height. There was no technical snag in the aircraft, said a press statement issued by the royal nepal airlines corporation after the crash. (Xinhua)

Government tables Anti-Torture Bill Excerpts from Xinhua reports

   The UML government has tabled an anti-torture bill at the current sesion of parliament for discussion. According to local press reports, it is the first time such a bill has been introduced in the country. According to home minister Khadga prasad Oli, the bill defines torture as a crime against humanity. Concerned police officials will be held responsible for punishable crime if under-trial prisoners are tortured during interrogation. the minister said that the anti-torture bill was being brought as an instrument for society to embrace human rights and he expressed his confidence that the bill would be helpful in establishing new practices and social values.

Japan provides debt relief aid Excerpts from Xinhua and Radio Nepal reports (via BBC)

   Japan has decided to extend a grant assistance of 279.645 million rupees (about 5.5 million U.S. dollars) to Nepal under its debt relief measures. The grant assistance is provided to nepal in lieu of repayment of principal and accrued interest on outstanding japanese loans to nepal since 1981. The grant assistance under the agreement signed on 18th January comprises the second portion provided under the debt relief measures.

New court for Foreingers in S. Korea as Nepalis end Protests Excerpts from Reuters report

   South Korean authorities said on Wednesday a special court is to be created to deal with labour issues affecting foreign workers after several Nepalis ended a protest demanding better working conditions.

   "The court will be set up sometime in March to deal with the problems facing foreign workers," an official from Seoul's District Civil Court said.

   Thirteen Nepalese migrant workers ended a nine-day protest on Tuesday outside Seoul's Myongdong Roman Catholic cathedral after they reached agreement on their list of demands with the Korean Federation of Small Business (KFSB).

   Under the agreement, the Nepalis will be paid directly in future and not via the office of the agency which brought them to Seoul. They will also be allowed to keep their passports, which their employers had kept to prevent them from running away for better-paid jobs.

   An official at the KFSB said the agreement applied to only the Nepalis for the present.

   "But we realise other foreign workers will also be demanding the same conditions. And so we are trying to come up with some kind of measures for all foreign workers here," he said.

Light Earthquake recorded in western Nepal
   An earthquake measuring 4.3 on the Richter Scale in Western Nepal was recorded at 12:18 local time today. According to the National Seismic Center, the epicenter was around Rumakhani near the border between Baglung and Myagdi districts. No losses have been reported. (Xinhua)

Taxation System to be Revised

   The Nepali government has set up a 6 member task force to review the taxation system and present its report within five months. Members of the task force include representatives designated by the leading federation of the nepalese chamber of commerce and industry (fncci) and the ministry of finance, according to the finance ministry. The supplementary budget presented to the current session of parliament emphasized revision of the taxation system in the country. (Xinhua)

Establishment of Carpet Fund Demanded Excerpts from Xinhua reports

   The nepal carpet manufacturers' association demanded the government to set up a carpet exporters development fund to protect and promote the carpet industry in the country. in a memorandum to prime minister man mohan adhikari friday, the association also demanded the government extend foreign currency facilities to the carpet producers. the association stressed the need for representation of the carpet producers in the carpet and wool development committee in the country.

it urged the government to set up a hospital for carpet workers, find an alternative solution to discourage child laborers in the carpet industry and lift the octroi problem faced by carpet producers outside kathmandu valley. the carpet industry is one of the main industries in nepal to earn foreign currency, but it is facing a decline since last year due to the child labor issue.

********************************************************* Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 00:56:41 -0500 (EST) From: Rakesh Karmacharya <karmacha@aecom.yu.edu> Subject: Clarification To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu

Regarding Ashutosh Tiwarijee's befuddlement about a line in a posting I made a few weeks ago that read
"It would also help to have less of thinly-veiled personal attacks and innuendos."

The above line was not intended as a call for any form of censorship of such material but as an exhortation to the TND contributors to leave personal grudges aside and discuss relevant topics untainted by personal animosities. What TND serves as a forum for is largely determined by the articles that are posted, and certaily the more prolific writers do set a trend. It would be a pity if TND degenerated into a billboard for people to take care of their insecurities by posting irrelevant personal attacks. Such dastardly acts may be therapeutic for the writer, but it is unfair for the general readers at large to waste their time going over material that is unintelligible and irrelevant to them.

Tiwarijee, given the option of the TND writers/readers using their own wisdom to decide what to post versus that of an editor/moderator serving the role of a censor, I will assure you that I will wholeheartedly go with the former.

Since I figured that my earlier comment might have been misconstrued by some, I thought I would clarify my point. Some may still "choose to misunderstand" and that is fine. I do not have the interest or the time to engage in vapid tit-for-tat volleys that often accompany petty arguments in TND. I have better things to do on a cloudy evening than sit in front of my computer and psychobabble.

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*********************************************************************************************** Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 00:49:56 -0500 (EST) From: Ashutosh Tiwari <tiwari@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: Re - Budhanilkantha School To: nepal@cs.niu.edu

My sincere thanks to Pritam Shrestha for his suggestion that I should take up the issue of BKS with the proper authorities in Nepal rather than venting my
"dissatisfaction" on this electronic forum.

At the risk of boring Pritam ( a BKS alum, I presume!), a little bit of history would be good:

In the May/June 1990 issue of HIMAL magazine (page 23), Kedar Mathema, then at the World Bank, now the VC of TU, [and I must admit one of the most impressive Nepalis I have ever met!] had argued that " . . .high-cost institutions such as BKS, which are heavily subsidised by government and foreign grants, need to be completely privatized. Savings from such measures can be channeled towards the improvement of rural schools."

Well, Mathema's proposal, the one that was basically posed by an education economist, elicited a furious reply from Brian Garton, then BKS' headmaster, who called it misguided. In the following HIMAL issues, Garton's arguments, in turn, received thorough drumming from other educationists, who were NOT against BKS per se, but were, like Mathema, worried about the tremendous amount of PREVENTABLE wastage and misallocation of scarce resources that Nepal incurs every year in the general secondary school education.

Against this backdrop, two points:

First, personally, I could care less about BKS. What BKS does is none of my business. But as a citizen of Nepal, concerned about the misguided education policies [like opening up the entire Mahendra Sanskrit University in Dang, at the additional cost to the state, when it could have been a low-cost Sanskrit Department within TU] that result in gross misuse of scarce resources year after year, I do challenge the priorities of the NPC/Education Ministry and foreign donors in propping up one school in Kathmandu under the guise of "helping the poor".

You do NOT help the poor by bringing half a dozen kids from, say, Syangja to Kathmandu, and by preparing them for A levels at the EXPENSE OF THE STATE! Better use of the state money would be to make sure that Syangja has the money to have its own strong high school that could give its villagers skills and knowledge to be, broadly speaking, active and productive citizens right there in Syangja. They do not have to come to Kathmandu for a decent education! Otherwise, when is Syangja going to "develop"?

Second: For Pritam's info, I HAVE talked about the sorry state of Nepal's secondary and higher educational planning (of which BKS is only a part!) with some of the leading architects of education in Nepal -- from Kamal Prakash Malla (whose book,"The Road To Nowhere" is something I would recommend to Pritam) to Narayan Prasad Shrestha (one key designer of the Naya Sickchya Yojana which had actually pushed BKS as a "model
[of NSY] school" in 1972 !), from Kapil Shrestha, president of TU's Professors' Union to Prithi Raj Legal, who was in NPC until recently, and many other "experts", including the folks in Sano-Thimi who design, prepare and administer the annual nation-wide SLC exams.

        They all know that something is hopelessly wrong with the way Nepal plans for education, and, like some of them, I too am searching for answers as to where/how and when did Nepal go wrong in its educational planning, and what could be done about it . . . and education is a rather elusive topic to think about . . . So, my approach is like that of a persistent student, asking questions, and challenging fuzzy, loose assumptions that even many educated Nepalis hold about the state of education in Nepal. That is why my "dissatisfaction" is NOT really directed at BKS per se, but at the whole educational planning machinery that seems to eat up even good people to have the nation stuck on some 19th-century's educational thinking . . .

At this point, I should record my gratitude to some of my most wonderful friends who have been a constant source of challenge to think more clearly about the state of Nepali education: Pratyoush Onta, Bikash Thapaliya, Surendra Sthapit and others.

Hopefully, if everything goes well, some of our efforts may result in a book in a few years. If not, hey, it's been worth trying to understand why smart and connected Nepalis continue to come to the west for a decent education, while our both smart-and not-so-smart-but-dissed by-the-system compatriots continue to travel down to India to become chowkidars or cheap Bahadurs, and how could those Bahadurs could be lured to stay in the country with better skills and higher wages.

Finally, no, sir, my training is NOT in educational planning or anything even remotely like that -- just happens to be my personal interest. That's all.

Enough said. My apologies to Pritam, if I have bored him again!

namaste ashu

**************************************************************** Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 14:52 +0000 (GMT +8:00) From: K.PAUDYAL@CGNET.COM Subject: APNEPSA To: NEPAL <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>

     This is a message about the activities of the Nepalese students in the Philippines. We have five Nepalese Students Organizations in the Philippines: Los Banos, Baguio, CLSU, Manila and Diliman. These are further organized under All Philippines Nepalese Students Association, Inc. (APNEPSA).
     In the academic year 1993/94, there were a total of 169 Nepalese students in the Philippines. Out of them, 100 were studying in under graduate level and 69 in graduate level. According to location, 33 % were in Baguio, 8 % in CLSU, 13 % in Diliman, 28 % in Los Banos, and 18 % in Manila. Taken subject-wise, largest # of the students were enrolled in civil engineering
(13.6%). The other major concentration area were electrical engineering (8.9%), electronic and communication engineering
(8.2%), business administration (8.2%), forestry (8.2%), computer science (7.1%), architecture (5.3%, agriculture and agronomy
(4.1%), agricultural economics (4.1%) and others. All together 40 different subjects are reported being taken by Nepalese students in the Philippines.
     Under the umbrella of APNEPSA, about 150 Nepali students studying at different universities in the Philippines celebrated
"Seventh annual sports meet" at University of the Philippines at Los Banos (UPLB) from December 27 to 29, 1994. The program was inaugurated by Dr. Sushil Pandey, a Nepali scientist working at International Rice Research Institute (IRRI). During the meet several sports were organized. Football, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, track and field, quiz contest, were some of the main attractions.
     During the occasion new set of officers of APNEPSA for the year 1995 were also elected. Mr. Kanhaiya Raj Shrestha (UPLB), Mr.Basanta Mainali (Baguio), Mr. Jas Man Lalchan (Baguio), Mr. Rabi Rasaily (CLSU), Miss. Sheetu Shakya (UPLB), and Mr. Deepak Raj Joshi (Baguio) were elected as President, Vice-President, General Secretary, Joint Secretary, Treasurer, and Sports and Cultural Secretary, respectively. The closing ceremony was held on 29 December where Mr. K. B. Shrestha, a Nepali working with FAO/Manila was the chief guest. During the occasion Dr. Gopal Joshi (a Nepali working with ILO/Manila) inducted the new set of officers.
                   Compiled by: Kamal Paudyal

******************************************************************* Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 13:30:03 +0000 (GMT) From: SHAILENDRA PRADHANANG ENH DEPT <SHAILENDRA.PRADHANANG@UCG.IE> Subject: POWER SECTOR IN NEPLA To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu

DEAR EDITOR,

ARTICLE 'S ON ARUN-3 IS VERY MUCH APPRECIABLE AND THANKFUL TO THE WRITER AND COMPILER. IT IS WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT SO MANY NGO AND INGO ARE VERY MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMICAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT.. SOME OF THEM ARE INTERESTED BECAUSE IT IS HOT CAKE IN ECONOMICAL ASPECTS. THE PROS AND CONS OF THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN STUDIED AND ANALYSED BY MANY TECHNICIAN, PLANNER AND LOBBIES OF DIFFERENT GROUPS. BUT IT IS HARD TO GET SINGLE OPINION IN EACH AND EVERY PROJECTS.

DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY NEPALESE ARE SUFFERERR FOR THE DILEMMA OF THE PROJECT. HAS ANY ONE STUDIED THE IMPACT OF LOAD SHADING IN THE ECONOMIC FIELD, SUCH AS TOURISM, INDUSTRIES AND POTENTIALITY OF INVESTMENT IN NEPAL. PROBABLY, WATER ENERGY COMMISSIONED SECRETARIATE HAS FLOATED TENDER FOR THE STUDY. WHATEVER THE RESULT MAY BE, THERE SHOULD BE ENERGY FOR DEVELOPMENT. WHETHER ITIS FROM ARUN-3 OR OTHERSOURCES, IT SHOULD BE VIABLE.

IT IS LEARNED THAT KALI GANDAKI'A" IS GOING TO BE EXECUTED SOON. IT IS DEFINITLY GREAT RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE. BUT GROWING DEMAND OF THE POWER CAN BE MEET IN FUTURE ONLY AFTER LUNCHING ABOUT SAME CAPACITY OF PROJECT WITHIN A SHORT INTERVAL.

NEPAL ELECTRICITY AUTHORITY HAS CONDUCTED MANY FEASIBILITY AND PREFEASIBILITY STUDY. MANY OF THEM SEEMS TO BE VIABLE AND LUCRATIVE. BUT THESE LUCRATIVE PROJCETS ARE ALREADY TAKEN BY THE PRIVATE ENTERPRENEUR, AGENCIES. SUCH AS MODI KHOLA BY NEPALI ENTERPRISES, BHOTE KOSHI BY HAZRA(, WEST SETI BY SMEC FRANCE, KHIMTI BY BUTWAL POWER . NO NEPALI KNOWS , WHAT BENEFIT THEY WILL GET FROM IT , WHAT ARE THE TERMS AND CONDITION LAID BY THE GOVERNMENT ON THEM. WHETHER THEY ARE FAVOURABLE FOR NEPALESE OR NOT. I DO NOT SEE ANY NGO AND INGO HAD SHOWN INTERESTED ON THESE. WHY?

THE STUDY COST IS CARRIED BY NEA,(INDIRECTLY CONSUMER'S MONEY), BUT BENEFIT IS GOING ON THE BASKET OF THE INVESTORS. SINCE THEY ALREADY GOT THE LICENCE
. THE PROJECT SHOULD BE EXECUTED IMMEDIATLY TO COPE WITH LOAD SHADING.OTHERWISE THEY SHOULD BE PENALISED FOR NOT COMMISIONING THE PROJECT ON TIME. OK, THINK IF MULTINTERNATIONAL AGENCIES WANTS TO BUILT,OPERAT ON OWN TECHNOLOGY (BOOT). WHAT SHOULD BE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. THE TIME HAS COME TO THINK OVER IT. SINCE WEST SETI PROJECT IS ALREADY SAY BOOKED BY SMEC, SIMILARY THAT COULD BE HAPPEN TO ARUN-3 ALSO.

********************************************************************* Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 22:27:13 -0400 (EDT) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Human Rights From: hmorgan@brbbs.brbbs.com (HUGH MORGAN) ---

I saw your message about human rights abuses to Nepalis in Korea which was posted on the internet use group soc.culture.nepal.

Have you considered enlisting the interest of Amnesty International the London based international group which publishes reports and organizes letter writting campaigns to stop human rights abuses?

Amnesty International (AI) has an internet gopher but I do not know its address.

Please be assured that many people deplore human rights abuses to ALL PEOPLE, so please do not restrict your call for help to people from Nepal.

My son, a student at Middlebury College in Vermont, is going to Nepal next month to teach at a school for Tibetan refugees. His E-Mail address is DMORGAN
@Midd.Middlebury.edu.

Hugh Morgan Powell, Tennessee, USA HMORG

************************************************************* Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 17:03:43 +0900 From: Gyaneswor Pokharel <g44329a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> Subject: The Nepal Digest - Jan 20, 1995 (6 Magh 2051 BkSm)

To, Readers.

I am sure that there are many irregularities in my posting and many mistakes -english- and -self-centered- explanations, so, those who dislike such things are suggested to skip my comment. I don't have time to edit and I have not gone through even second time reading because I don't have time (like you don't have time to read my comment). Overall solution to all these problem is just to express my very sincere appologies. "Maf-mage-shi- ta- daiba-le pani chhyama garcha bhanthe, Nepal-ma". GP

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   Employees of the Nepal Bank Limited, the largest bank in the country, launched a 3-day strike starting from sunday, demanding for the implementation of their agreement with the management on august 24 last year.

The bank is 51 percent by the government. Last month, the communist government in its revised annual budget to Parliament gave nearly 200,000 government employees a $5 bonus.

=====my comment==================================================

        Nepal Bank-a most corrupt bank- employee wants BONUS ? On What ground they should be given bonus ? Because they !chat very hard !!women employee - are very busy in knitting "SWEET=ER" for their kids-husband-mother-mother-in-law ?
        If any of you have account in Nepal bank, you must have experienced the hell of inefficient employees. I had one account in Nepal Bank near my college, and I never got cashed my check within 30minutes, atleast 1hr. I remember sometime, the file didn't move just for last one check from the So called ma-ne-jar shaheb because the peon was not there he went somewhere, the question was who will lift the file ? Personality clash ? Lifting file means for them insult? Ouch, sometime they, while chatting-knitting sweet-er, say
"DEkhnu bhayeko chhaina hami-lai kasto be furshada chha ?". I spent 3+ years with that account and might have spent many equivalent study days. One day I couldn't bear my temper, when I couldn't get cashed my CHECque (Spelling?) for about 1.5 hrs and at that moment there were no other customer, I was the only one waiting. I went to manager 's room and his reply was also same "no-peon", so please wait. I said mana-manai, O.K. shits (equivalent in nepali) I will never come to this mess, then I filed to close my account. They had no regret they again took another 1+ hours and closed my account. I spent altogether 3hrs. So, my question is whether we need such banks? with peoples 51% tax-payed share ?

----------------------------------------------------------------- Nepali Ambassador meets protesting workers in Seoul

   The Nepalese ambassador to Tokyo, Purushottam Lal Shrestha, who also serves as the ambassador to Seoul, flew into Seoul today and met with 13 Nepalese workers who have been staging a sit-in protest in front of...........................
================my comment---------------

Any Nepali living anywhere, except those who are direct relatives, might have hardly got any benefit of Nepali embassy in this planet. Their first answer is always they don't have budget. non-sense peoples in these embassy have a lot of money to celebrate Kings birthday and Dashain and new-years day using taxpayers money and when you want small help or big help , they easily deny that "they don't have budget". Lets look what our ambassador will reply on the possibility of Nepalis missing in Kobe due to earthquake. There were 120+ foreigners missing in that area. Has our ambassador released any statements ? I don't think ? I know there are atleast a dozen of "legally" staying nepalis and overstay is not known. The embassay don't have any data on how many nepali have entered japan and how many are legal and illegal. If you want to extend your passport, they have first question, "do you have visa?", for me it is humiliating question. But, I have found the reason why they ask this question ? Because there are two rates for passport extension one for with valid visa and other for illegally "overstay" nepalis. Overstay Nepalis have to pay 50% overhead because they are illegal. What a wonderful rate? Still when I sent my passport for extension, they didn't send formal receit. Nepali embassy was issuing receit
(such receit is generally issued by small shops without company names- no-header --no-body- no-tail-no- address-----) in Japanese character and by a person who don't know these characters. When I asked for clarification, their answer was same "No budget". I wanted to say, "hey-shits- why don't you print in Nepal and post which is atleast 1/10 the price of printing in Japan". I suspect that the US$60. shouldn't be the price for Passport extension for the country whose annual income is US$180. (1/3rd of income for passport extension?), if so why can't they issue receit ? This is me who insisted on the requirements of receit in any case, but, for other ninty % of peoples they don't issue even that nakali receit, though they want. Some of them are asked to come in person in Tokyo which is known for most expensive night stay, and said "Bholi an-u-nus"? What kind of non-sense are there in our NEPALI embassy ? I know one of NETers (who also receives TND wrote to me) that he had to spent I guess about US$ 500. just to extend passport in the country whose postal service is the most reliable in this planet. What is the meanining of such embassy ? Why should we spend our hard earned money as tax to vouch their stay in Japan or other expensive countries ?

        NOt only that, these non-sense money hungry personnel don't know how to fill-up the passport, I guess they hardly know the real meaning of passport. My wife's passport contains my daughters photograph. What they did is they changed her date of birth when they transferred data from old to new ? Are not they non-sense. This is not only in that passport, it happened in my passport also. I know one of NETer also wrote to me that similar mistake was done by the Embassy in USAmerica, and s/he had to mail and .....pay.....

        Another story, I remember when my elder brother was in USSR. He didn't write any letters for 3 years and there was no information about him. We tried through USSR embassy in nepal and they suggested to go through our nepali embassy which should keep all the record of nepalis in USSR. Then we sent series of letters with months gap to nepali embassy in Moscowa, but, they didn't reply a single, neither they said have any information nor they can't help. then one day he came alone to Nepal, he told the horror story of staying 3 years in Russian hospital with heavy doses of medicine. he said that his friends had requested to nepali embassy, but, shit peoples in nepali embassy didn't show any interest and these student friends find the way to discharge forcefully
(hospital personnel didn't allow him to be discharged) and flew to nepal. He says whehter they were experimenting medicine for three years ? Was Nepali embassy useful to any Nepalis in this earth ?

        So, my question is whether we really need such emabssy and personnel who don't do what we expect as Nepali to do from our hard earned foreign currency? Using child labour to these Nepalis working in Korea or in gulf or in McDonald in USA + other countries ? who will check them ?

        What these embassy peoples do with our money ?

1. They bring their many relatives and employ illegally in resturant and to many "3-D" jobs . 2. Export goods to Nepal. 3. Illegally bribe money from Nepalis staying legally or illegally
        whenever the sitauation prevails. 4. Try to exploit as many subidha as law allows, but there is no
        budget to mail passport (in the case of correction? forget first
        time) or to issue 10paise receit. 5. Extract as much salary and share with bosses in Nepal. 6. I have even heard that the Ambassador have to donate some
        part of his salary to their political party. This is the one of the
        main source of having money by political parties.

So, lets see how the ambassador will tell us his progress in Korean problem and Kobe earthquake. In Korean case, they will quit like one Taiwanese minister (?) who was illegally staying in Nepal was released without any reason because Taiwan threatened to expell all the Nepalis living in Taiwan. Afterall, it will continue...............

Sorry for long.

GP

P>s. It went long because , outside of my room was raining. Now rain stopped, I must go home.

PSHRESTH@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU wrote:

 My suggestion to him is that if he really wants to do something about it, he shoul d voice his feelings to the proper people or gov't officials in Nepal, who'd be in a position to do so. Most of the peolpe who have access to TND, I believe, wouldn't be in such a position, even if they shared Tiwari's "dissatisfaction",
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My comments: I think you, Prabin, are wrong here. MY short answer is that I don't become minister , does not mean that I should n't vote in the election. We should be optismistic that out of 1000 (?) TND readers some might be from Ministry of education and some will be there, afterall they are all so called elites in Nepal ? Some are from BKS itself, and may be interested to work back in BKS, why not let them learn what should be the objective of BKS.

>>just because of the fact that they are presently in the U.S.

        It is my comment since long time back that lets not forget there are Nepalis from all 6 continents. Like Khatry jee, who is the one I have ever seen posting from Africa and Mr. Wagle from SLE, London and many from europe, after completing their studies there are more chances these Nepalis staying in non-US conuntries will be going back. So, let us learn and exchange our views.

Gyaneswor

About Subject: Re - F2 Visa Denial

y using the combined phrases think I will....". So, there is big different usin g "I think I will do...." and "I will do....".
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        My understanding---

I have never applied for any visa to US consulars. But, I had some non-Nepali and nepali friends who had told their experiences.]

        There were two AITian who got admission into USA universities. These were from same south asian country and the US Embassy in Thailand denied their visa and told them go to your native country and get it done from there. But, one third person from same batch and from same country was issued from Thailand. SO, it was wonderful? Their experience was that it depends on your luck who interviews you?
        These two guys went to their native country and tried there. one of them straight away got and second one was denied. Two were together in the que and there were 4 windows , so these went to two separate window
. The unlucky guy was asked some questions and he honestly told his objective of going to USA and expected period of stay and his home situation. He was by face always serious looking guy. Then he was asked to come after 3 days. After next 3 days he went and unfortunately he went to the window and with the same personnel. He was again denied and he was asked to try again. He tried for four times and at the 4th time he was declared that no need to try and will not be allowed to enter into America. He was topper in his batch at AIT and he also got admission offer from Cambridge University. Regarding the universities
, he was getting best university in his subject i.e. Cambridge, but going to cambridge was certain that he had to return to his native country. He had no interest to return back to his country. He had told to the US consular's personnel the same desire, that I want to work in US and he had many house problem , he had to invite his brother who was at that time school student,,, blah..... and US cons. personnel had not seen any sign of returning homeland after completing his PhD atleast from his mouth. But, the former two guys have said that they will return once they complete their studies. I , now , know that these guys went to US are working in USA. So, the question to asked by US Cons. officer cann't predict and it fully depends on the person who will give the answer. Best way is to promise and show him confident that you will be going back to your country. Two ticket is one of them ?

        One of my very close friend from Calcutta was also denied for two times and finally got it, he wrote to me that he was very afraid at that moment. He told that questions were almost similar to those aforesaid two guys , not indians.

Hope it gives you some idea. They were all PhD and now at the verge of completion.

Gyaneswor.

P.S. To. My many friends whom I didn't reply your letters will be replied on 26th, because I am submitting my thesis on 25th Jan. I just got the final copy after binding. My series of dead-lines are all over except two -public hearing- and graduation day, March 27 which is sayonara day from my Student-life and also from TND et al (?)...... but.........................not sure............ GP....... Special thanks for Ashu for his interest in my thesis.

 
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