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The Nepal Digest Monday 23 Jan 95: Magh 9 2051 BkSm Volume 35 Issue 13
News From Nepal
Education - Re: Budhanilkanta and Resources
Re: F2 Visa Denial
Environments - Re: Arun III
Social - This and That
Nepali Association in Manila
Sattaires - Top 10 Mystries
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Top Ten Mysteries on SNC and TND
1. Who is this guy(girl?) Panther? Why did he/she name Panther
in the first place! why not Bison, Lasha Apso or Kangaroo.
2. Who is this person "Jai Maharaj" in SNC who stirs the pot
occasionaly. Is he a head priest of Changu Narayan or the
acquaintance of Panther who met him in Shiva Puri while
looking for Marijuana plant.
3. Anyone knows about these Human Rights Committee - USA guys?
Umm.. who is funding their project. Can I also get some
portion of that grant pie.. my human rights areseverely
violated too. Some of them have even Phd's . Ashu, who are
are these self-declared "intellectuals"? Are they "experts"
who claims to know right thing for everybody?
4. I would like to know who "Daya" and "Raju" are from the
matrimonial section. They seem like cool guys. Hey, when are
are you guys throwing a party??
5. What's going on with the "Clarkian Gangs"?? Where are you guys
hibernating? Amulya, please tell us more about the land reform
history of Nepal and etymology of the word "putali".
6. Eknath Belbase ji, I know you are cool but why did you added
(math grad) by your E-mail address?? By the way, I am taking
a Calculas class this semester, can I send you an E-mail If
I cannot solve some equations. Could you please enlighten TND
readers on your (math graduate) curriculams??
7. Is Pepsi really chaper than wine in Nepal?? Shirly Chung, where
did you get this information from?? I bet Panther must have
sent you this information. Is wine synonymous to "Tharra"( I mean
in Nepali term) then you may be right. Wine makers new advertising
slogan in Nepal:"You got the right wine babe.."
8. Gyanaswar, I like your parables. You are quite a story teller.
Do you have any moral stories on Cat and the Crow, Snake and
the Eagle, Grasshoppers and the ants. We would like to hear some
of those stories.
9. My friend is going to Nepal next month, can anyone tell me how
can I contact his through E-mail? Suggestion: Read "Zen and the
art of communicating a person in Nepal through Internet". Frank
Kroger, I need your help to market this book in Ramechap district.
10. Hey, Mr. "silent do good", why don't you get out of the old and
get to the cold. If you believe your rights are violated, contact
Human Rights Committee - Nepal guys. Or if they are no solace to
you, then just go back to Nepal and drink wine instead of Pepsi.
Take Panther along though, he goes to Nepal to party!!
All right folks, so much for the Top Ten mysteries. I am exhausted with
my mystery list. It is time to send an E-mail to Eknath Belbase(math grad).
I just got stuck while I was trying to solve my Calculas homework.
I am falling and I cannot get up..
Date: 20 Jan 95 17:20:18 EST
From: Rajendra.P.Shrestha@Dartmouth.EDU (Rajendra P. Shrestha)
Two die in RNAC crash
Excerpts from Xinhua, DPA, UPI and Reuters reports
The captain and one passenger died when a twin-otter Royal Nepal
Airlines aircraft crashed Tuesday afternoon at 1:59 p.m. into a rice
field and burst into flames while trying to take off from Kathmandu
airport. The 23 other people on board were injured. Four - including
the co-pilot and an Australian woman tourist - were said to be on the
danger list. The plane was headed for Rumjatar, 130 kilometers east of
According to an airport security officer, the accident happened
when the plane started to take off from the runway but failed and hit
the runway with its head. ''Minutes after it took off, the aircraft
landed onto a field about 150 meters (164 yards) north of the
airstrip. The right wing was completely broken,'' a civil aviation
official said. Officials said the aircraft's nose, wings and the
undercarriage were badly damaged. The pilot, Capt. Ran Singh Gurung,
was killed at the crash site while a passenger, Ambar Bahadur Karki,
died in hospital. The plane had 22 passengers and 3 crews. The injured
were being treated at two hospitals in the Nepalese capital.
"I thought the plane was about to take off. Then I heard a peculiar
sound and then the plane crashed," said Denju Dahal, a young mother
who, along with her 18-month-old baby, was being treated for head
Nepali police arrest six Sri Lankans
[Updated report] Excerpts from UPI and Xinhua reports
Immigration police in Nepal have arrested six Sri Lankans accused
of operating a human smuggling operation, officials said Tuesday.
Home Ministry officials said the group had been using forged visas and
passports to illegally send people to various parts of the
world. Police raided a house in suburban Katmandu and arrested six Sri
Lankans who had been living in Nepal illegally for the ''last four to
five years,'' the home ministry said. Head of the gang, Alfred
Reghdhi, has been involved in the illegal activities in nepal for four
or five years under the Indian name of Janardan Shanker. During the
raid, the immigration department seized 23 fake passports of various
countries, seven embossing machines, 175 rubber stamps used for
issuing visas of various countries, fake visa stickers numbering 49,
blank foils for passport of various countries, said the spokesman.
The ministry did did not say whether the Sri Lankans were Tamils or
Sinhalese. Indian press reports have in the past linked Tamils living
in Nepal to the Tamil sepatarist movement in the island republic. The
ministry said the leader of the gang was living in Nepal under an
Indian alias. The immigration police recovered forged passports,
visas, embossing machines and false documents from the home, ministry
Nepal Bank strike Continues
Excerpts from UPI report
A strike at Nepal Bank Limited severely affected operations
Tuesday and presented a crucial test of the recently installed
communist government's ability to handle labor issues. The strikers
from the bank, which has over 200 branches and 7, 000 employees
are demanding the implementation of demands that were agreed upon
seven months ago. ''We reject the unilateral (wage) offer anounced
Saturday by the management,'' said Nepal Bank Employees Secretary
Kiran Shrestha. Management unilaterally had offered the employeesf
the equivalent of $2 million to be distributed among employees and a
monthly $6 allowance. The employees have rejected the offer and want
a monthly increment instead. The NBEA is close to the communist
government, but the strike is also backed by the Nepal Financial
Institution Employees Association, which is close to the opposition
Nepal proposes dates for Bhutan talks
Excerpts from UPI and Xinhua reports
Nepal has proposed ministerial-level talks with neighboring Bhutan
sometime between Feb. 27 and March 2 to resolve the issue of 100,000
Bhutanese refugees languishing in refugee camps in Nepal, the nation's
Foreign Ministry said Tuesday. Nepal has not received a reply from
Bhutan for the proposed fifth round of talks, the ministry
Meanwhile, speaking in parliament, the deputy PM and foreign
minister Madhav Nepal said that Nepal wants progress, prosperity and
democracy in Bhutan but the Nepalese government will not remain
tight-lipped if anyone attempts to oppress Nepalis. ''The government
is seriously taking the issue of the Bhutanese refugees. We are ready
to seek cooperation of all, including India, in resolving the
problem.'' In even stronger terms, Nepal said, ''The refugees should
be allowed to return in a dignified manner to their homeland and we
will not be a silent spectator if they once again subject them to
torture in that country.''
The deputy PM also accused the previous Nepali Congress government
of not giving the refugee issue priority. ''The refugee problem
is created by Bhutan and not be Nepal, '' the foreign minister said,
accusing Bhutanese authorities of torture and forced evictions. He
said that he will bring up the refugee issue with India during his
visit to New Delhi next month.
The deputy PM also informed the House that the government has
initiated efforts through foreign ministry level, not only through
home ministry level, to resolve the bhutanese refugee problem, adding
a team including the foreign ministry had been formed under the
leadership of the home ministry to deal with the problem. Four rounds
of talks have been held between Nepal and Bhutan without much
progress. The fifth round, scheduled for September 1994 was postponed
due to mid-term polls in Nepal.
Committee formed to Investigate Crash
An eight-member investigation committee of the nepali government has been formed to investigate the air crash at tribhuvan international airport. the government made this decision after the council of ministers held an emergency meeting tuesday following the mishap at the airport of the capital city. A twin-otter aircraft operated by RNAC crash soon after take-off on Tuesday, killing two injuring 22 on board. According to a passenger undergoing treatment in hospital, the aircraft crashed about a kilometer from the airport after it failed to gain height. There was no technical snag in the aircraft, said a press statement issued by the royal nepal airlines corporation after the crash. (Xinhua)
Government tables Anti-Torture Bill
Excerpts from Xinhua reports
The UML government has tabled an anti-torture bill at the current
sesion of parliament for discussion. According to local press reports,
it is the first time such a bill has been introduced in the
country. According to home minister Khadga prasad Oli, the bill
defines torture as a crime against humanity. Concerned police
officials will be held responsible for punishable crime if under-trial
prisoners are tortured during interrogation. the minister said that
the anti-torture bill was being brought as an instrument for society
to embrace human rights and he expressed his confidence that the bill
would be helpful in establishing new practices and social values.
Japan provides debt relief aid
Excerpts from Xinhua and Radio Nepal reports (via BBC)
Japan has decided to extend a grant assistance of 279.645 million
rupees (about 5.5 million U.S. dollars) to Nepal under its debt relief
measures. The grant assistance is provided to nepal in lieu of
repayment of principal and accrued interest on outstanding japanese
loans to nepal since 1981. The grant assistance under the agreement
signed on 18th January comprises the second portion provided under the
debt relief measures.
New court for Foreingers in S. Korea as Nepalis end Protests
Excerpts from Reuters report
South Korean authorities said on Wednesday a special court is to be
created to deal with labour issues affecting foreign workers after
several Nepalis ended a protest demanding better working conditions.
"The court will be set up sometime in March to deal with the
problems facing foreign workers," an official from Seoul's District
Civil Court said.
Thirteen Nepalese migrant workers ended a nine-day protest on
Tuesday outside Seoul's Myongdong Roman Catholic cathedral after they
reached agreement on their list of demands with the Korean Federation
of Small Business (KFSB).
Under the agreement, the Nepalis will be paid directly in future
and not via the office of the agency which brought them to Seoul. They
will also be allowed to keep their passports, which their employers
had kept to prevent them from running away for better-paid jobs.
An official at the KFSB said the agreement applied to only the
Nepalis for the present.
"But we realise other foreign workers will also be demanding the
same conditions. And so we are trying to come up with some kind of
measures for all foreign workers here," he said.
Light Earthquake recorded in western Nepal
An earthquake measuring 4.3 on the Richter Scale in Western Nepal was recorded at 12:18 local time today. According to the National Seismic Center, the epicenter was around Rumakhani near the border between Baglung and Myagdi districts. No losses have been reported. (Xinhua)
Taxation System to be Revised
The Nepali government has set up a 6 member task force to review
the taxation system and present its report within five months. Members
of the task force include representatives designated by the leading
federation of the nepalese chamber of commerce and industry (fncci)
and the ministry of finance, according to the finance ministry. The
supplementary budget presented to the current session of parliament
emphasized revision of the taxation system in the country. (Xinhua)
Establishment of Carpet Fund Demanded
Excerpts from Xinhua reports
The nepal carpet manufacturers' association demanded the government
to set up a carpet exporters development fund to protect and promote
the carpet industry in the country. in a memorandum to prime minister
man mohan adhikari friday, the association also demanded the
government extend foreign currency facilities to the carpet producers.
the association stressed the need for representation of the carpet
producers in the carpet and wool development committee in the country.
it urged the government to set up a hospital for carpet workers, find
an alternative solution to discourage child laborers in the carpet
industry and lift the octroi problem faced by carpet producers outside
kathmandu valley. the carpet industry is one of the main industries
in nepal to earn foreign currency, but it is facing a decline since
last year due to the child labor issue.
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 00:56:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Rakesh Karmacharya <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Regarding Ashutosh Tiwarijee's befuddlement about a line in a posting I
made a few weeks ago that read
"It would also help to have less of thinly-veiled personal attacks and innuendos."
The above line was not intended as a call for any form of censorship of
such material but as an exhortation to the TND contributors to leave
personal grudges aside and discuss relevant topics untainted by personal
animosities. What TND serves as a forum for is largely determined by the
articles that are posted, and certaily the more prolific writers do set a
trend. It would be a pity if TND degenerated into a billboard for people to
take care of their insecurities by posting irrelevant personal attacks.
Such dastardly acts may be therapeutic for the writer, but it is unfair for
the general readers at large to waste their time going over material that
is unintelligible and irrelevant to them.
Tiwarijee, given the option of the TND writers/readers using their own
wisdom to decide what to post versus that of an editor/moderator serving
the role of a censor, I will assure you that I will wholeheartedly go with
Since I figured that my earlier comment might have been misconstrued by
some, I thought I would clarify my point. Some may still "choose to
misunderstand" and that is fine. I do not have the interest or the time to
engage in vapid tit-for-tat volleys that often accompany petty arguments
in TND. I have better things to do on a cloudy evening than sit in front
of my computer and psychobabble.
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 00:49:56 -0500 (EST)
From: Ashutosh Tiwari <email@example.com>
Subject: Re - Budhanilkantha School
My sincere thanks to Pritam Shrestha for his
suggestion that I should take up the issue of BKS with the
proper authorities in Nepal rather than venting my
"dissatisfaction" on this electronic forum.
At the risk of boring Pritam ( a BKS alum, I presume!), a
little bit of history would be good:
In the May/June 1990 issue of HIMAL magazine (page 23), Kedar
Mathema, then at the World Bank, now the VC of TU, [and I must
admit one of the most impressive Nepalis I have ever met!] had
argued that " . . .high-cost institutions such as BKS, which are heavily
subsidised by government and foreign grants, need to be completely
privatized. Savings from such measures can be channeled towards
the improvement of rural schools."
Well, Mathema's proposal, the one that was basically posed by an
education economist, elicited a furious reply
from Brian Garton, then BKS' headmaster, who called it
misguided. In the following HIMAL issues, Garton's arguments, in turn,
received thorough drumming from other educationists, who were NOT
against BKS per se, but were, like Mathema, worried about the
amount of PREVENTABLE wastage and misallocation of scarce resources that
Nepal incurs every year in the general secondary school education.
Against this backdrop, two points:
First, personally, I could care less about BKS. What BKS does is none of my
business. But as a citizen of Nepal, concerned about the misguided
education policies [like opening up the entire Mahendra Sanskrit
University in Dang, at the additional cost to the state, when it could
have been a low-cost Sanskrit
Department within TU] that result in gross misuse of scarce resources year
after year, I do challenge the priorities of the NPC/Education Ministry
and foreign donors in propping up one school in Kathmandu under the
guise of "helping the poor".
You do NOT help the poor by bringing half a dozen kids from, say,
Syangja to Kathmandu, and by preparing them for A levels at the
EXPENSE OF THE STATE! Better use of the state money would be to
that Syangja has the money to have its own strong high school that
could give its villagers skills and knowledge to be, broadly speaking, active
and productive citizens right there in Syangja. They do not have to come to
Kathmandu for a decent education! Otherwise, when is Syangja going
Second: For Pritam's info, I HAVE talked about the sorry state
of Nepal's secondary and higher educational planning (of which BKS is
only a part!) with
some of the leading architects of education in Nepal -- from Kamal
Prakash Malla (whose book,"The Road To Nowhere" is something I would
recommend to Pritam) to Narayan Prasad Shrestha (one key designer of the
Naya Sickchya Yojana which had actually pushed BKS as a "model
[of NSY] school" in 1972 !), from Kapil Shrestha, president of TU's Professors' Union to Prithi Raj Legal, who was in NPC until recently, and many other "experts", including the folks in Sano-Thimi who design, prepare and administer the annual nation-wide SLC exams.
all know that something is hopelessly wrong with the way Nepal
plans for education, and, like some of them, I too am searching
for answers as to where/how and when did Nepal go wrong in its
educational planning, and what could be done about it . . . and
education is a rather elusive topic to think about . . .
So, my approach is like that of a persistent student,
asking questions, and challenging fuzzy, loose assumptions that
even many educated Nepalis hold about the state of education in
Nepal. That is why my "dissatisfaction" is NOT really directed at
BKS per se, but at the whole educational planning machinery that
seems to eat up even good people to have the nation stuck on
some 19th-century's educational thinking . . .
At this point, I should record my gratitude to some of my most
wonderful friends who have been a constant source of challenge
to think more clearly about the state of Nepali education:
Pratyoush Onta, Bikash Thapaliya, Surendra Sthapit and others.
Hopefully, if everything goes well, some of our efforts may result
in a book in a few years. If not, hey, it's been worth trying to
understand why smart and connected Nepalis continue to come
to the west for a decent education, while our both
smart-and not-so-smart-but-dissed by-the-system compatriots continue
to travel down to India to become chowkidars or cheap Bahadurs, and how
could those Bahadurs could be lured to stay in the country with better
skills and higher wages.
Finally, no, sir, my training is NOT in educational planning
or anything even remotely like that -- just happens to be my
personal interest. That's all.
Enough said. My apologies to Pritam, if I have bored him again!
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 14:52 +0000 (GMT +8:00)
To: NEPAL <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>
This is a message about the activities of the Nepalese
students in the Philippines. We have five Nepalese Students
Organizations in the Philippines: Los Banos, Baguio, CLSU, Manila
and Diliman. These are further organized under All Philippines
Nepalese Students Association, Inc. (APNEPSA).
In the academic year 1993/94, there were a total of 169 Nepalese students in the Philippines. Out of them, 100 were studying in under graduate level and 69 in graduate level. According to location, 33 % were in Baguio, 8 % in CLSU, 13 % in Diliman, 28 % in Los Banos, and 18 % in Manila. Taken subject-wise, largest # of the students were enrolled in civil engineering
(13.6%). The other major concentration area were electrical engineering (8.9%), electronic and communication engineering
(8.2%), business administration (8.2%), forestry (8.2%), computer science (7.1%), architecture (5.3%, agriculture and agronomy
(4.1%), agricultural economics (4.1%) and others. All together 40 different subjects are reported being taken by Nepalese students in the Philippines.
Under the umbrella of APNEPSA, about 150 Nepali students studying at different universities in the Philippines celebrated
"Seventh annual sports meet" at University of the Philippines at Los Banos (UPLB) from December 27 to 29, 1994. The program was inaugurated by Dr. Sushil Pandey, a Nepali scientist working at International Rice Research Institute (IRRI). During the meet several sports were organized. Football, volleyball, table tennis, badminton, track and field, quiz contest, were some of the main attractions.
During the occasion new set of officers of APNEPSA for the year 1995 were also elected. Mr. Kanhaiya Raj Shrestha (UPLB), Mr.Basanta Mainali (Baguio), Mr. Jas Man Lalchan (Baguio), Mr. Rabi Rasaily (CLSU), Miss. Sheetu Shakya (UPLB), and Mr. Deepak Raj Joshi (Baguio) were elected as President, Vice-President, General Secretary, Joint Secretary, Treasurer, and Sports and Cultural Secretary, respectively. The closing ceremony was held on 29 December where Mr. K. B. Shrestha, a Nepali working with FAO/Manila was the chief guest. During the occasion Dr. Gopal Joshi (a Nepali working with ILO/Manila) inducted the new set of officers.
Compiled by: Kamal Paudyal
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 13:30:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: SHAILENDRA PRADHANANG ENH DEPT <SHAILENDRA.PRADHANANG@UCG.IE>
Subject: POWER SECTOR IN NEPLA
ARTICLE 'S ON ARUN-3 IS VERY MUCH APPRECIABLE AND THANKFUL TO THE
WRITER AND COMPILER. IT IS WELL UNDERSTOOD THAT SO MANY NGO AND INGO ARE VERY
MUCH CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMICAL ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT..
SOME OF THEM ARE INTERESTED BECAUSE IT IS HOT CAKE IN ECONOMICAL ASPECTS.
THE PROS AND CONS OF THE PROJECT HAS ALREADY BEEN STUDIED AND ANALYSED
BY MANY TECHNICIAN, PLANNER AND LOBBIES OF DIFFERENT GROUPS. BUT IT IS
HARD TO GET SINGLE OPINION IN EACH AND EVERY PROJECTS.
DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY NEPALESE ARE SUFFERERR FOR THE DILEMMA OF THE PROJECT.
HAS ANY ONE STUDIED THE IMPACT OF LOAD SHADING IN THE ECONOMIC FIELD, SUCH
AS TOURISM, INDUSTRIES AND POTENTIALITY OF INVESTMENT IN NEPAL. PROBABLY,
WATER ENERGY COMMISSIONED SECRETARIATE HAS FLOATED TENDER FOR THE STUDY.
WHATEVER THE RESULT MAY BE, THERE SHOULD BE ENERGY FOR DEVELOPMENT. WHETHER
ITIS FROM ARUN-3 OR OTHERSOURCES, IT SHOULD BE VIABLE.
IT IS LEARNED THAT KALI GANDAKI'A" IS GOING TO BE EXECUTED SOON. IT IS
DEFINITLY GREAT RELIEF FOR THE PEOPLE. BUT GROWING DEMAND OF THE POWER CAN
BE MEET IN FUTURE ONLY AFTER LUNCHING ABOUT SAME CAPACITY OF PROJECT WITHIN
A SHORT INTERVAL.
NEPAL ELECTRICITY AUTHORITY HAS CONDUCTED MANY FEASIBILITY AND PREFEASIBILITY
STUDY. MANY OF THEM SEEMS TO BE VIABLE AND LUCRATIVE. BUT THESE LUCRATIVE
PROJCETS ARE ALREADY TAKEN BY THE PRIVATE ENTERPRENEUR, AGENCIES. SUCH AS
MODI KHOLA BY NEPALI ENTERPRISES, BHOTE KOSHI BY HAZRA(, WEST SETI BY SMEC
FRANCE, KHIMTI BY BUTWAL POWER . NO NEPALI KNOWS , WHAT BENEFIT THEY WILL
GET FROM IT , WHAT ARE THE TERMS AND CONDITION LAID BY THE GOVERNMENT ON THEM.
WHETHER THEY ARE FAVOURABLE FOR NEPALESE OR NOT. I DO NOT SEE ANY NGO AND
INGO HAD SHOWN INTERESTED ON THESE. WHY?
THE STUDY COST IS CARRIED BY NEA,(INDIRECTLY CONSUMER'S MONEY), BUT BENEFIT
IS GOING ON THE BASKET OF THE INVESTORS. SINCE THEY ALREADY GOT THE LICENCE
. THE PROJECT SHOULD BE EXECUTED IMMEDIATLY TO COPE WITH LOAD SHADING.OTHERWISE THEY SHOULD BE PENALISED FOR NOT COMMISIONING THE PROJECT ON TIME. OK, THINK IF MULTINTERNATIONAL AGENCIES WANTS TO BUILT,OPERAT ON OWN TECHNOLOGY (BOOT). WHAT SHOULD BE TERMS AND CONDITIONS. THE TIME HAS COME TO THINK OVER IT. SINCE WEST SETI PROJECT IS ALREADY SAY BOOKED BY SMEC, SIMILARY THAT COULD BE HAPPEN TO ARUN-3 ALSO.
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 22:27:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Human Rights
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (HUGH MORGAN) ---
I saw your message about human rights abuses to Nepalis in Korea which was
posted on the internet use group soc.culture.nepal.
Have you considered enlisting the interest of Amnesty International the London
based international group which publishes reports and organizes letter writting
campaigns to stop human rights abuses?
Amnesty International (AI) has an internet gopher but I do not know its
Please be assured that many people deplore human rights abuses to ALL PEOPLE,
so please do not restrict your call for help to people from Nepal.
My son, a student at Middlebury College in Vermont, is going to Nepal next
month to teach at a school for Tibetan refugees. His E-Mail address is DMORGAN
Powell, Tennessee, USA
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 1995 17:03:43 +0900
From: Gyaneswor Pokharel <email@example.com>
Subject: The Nepal Digest - Jan 20, 1995 (6 Magh 2051 BkSm)
I am sure that there are many irregularities in my posting and
many mistakes -english- and -self-centered- explanations,
so, those who dislike such things are suggested to skip my comment.
I don't have time to edit and I have not gone through even second
time reading because I don't have time (like you don't have time
to read my comment). Overall solution to all these problem is
just to express my very sincere appologies. "Maf-mage-shi- ta-
daiba-le pani chhyama garcha bhanthe, Nepal-ma". GP
Employees of the Nepal Bank Limited, the largest bank in the country, launched a 3-day strike starting from sunday, demanding for the implementation of their agreement with the management on august 24 last year.
The bank is 51 percent by the government. Last month, the
communist government in its revised annual budget to Parliament gave
nearly 200,000 government employees a $5 bonus.
Nepal Bank-a most corrupt bank- employee wants BONUS ?
On What ground they should be given bonus ? Because they !chat very
hard !!women employee - are very busy in knitting "SWEET=ER" for
their kids-husband-mother-mother-in-law ?
If any of you have account in Nepal bank, you must have experienced the hell of inefficient employees. I had one account in Nepal Bank near my college, and I never got cashed my check within 30minutes, atleast 1hr. I remember sometime, the file didn't move just for last one check from the So called ma-ne-jar shaheb because the peon was not there he went somewhere, the question was who will lift the file ? Personality clash ? Lifting file means for them insult? Ouch, sometime they, while chatting-knitting sweet-er, say
"DEkhnu bhayeko chhaina hami-lai kasto be furshada chha ?". I spent 3+ years with that account and might have spent many equivalent study days. One day I couldn't bear my temper, when I couldn't get cashed my CHECque (Spelling?) for about 1.5 hrs and at that moment there were no other customer, I was the only one waiting. I went to manager 's room and his reply was also same "no-peon", so please wait. I said mana-manai, O.K. shits (equivalent in nepali) I will never come to this mess, then I filed to close my account. They had no regret they again took another 1+ hours and closed my account. I spent altogether 3hrs. So, my question is whether we need such banks? with peoples 51% tax-payed share ?
Nepali Ambassador meets protesting workers in Seoul
The Nepalese ambassador to Tokyo, Purushottam Lal Shrestha, who
also serves as the ambassador to Seoul, flew into Seoul today and met
with 13 Nepalese workers who have been staging a sit-in protest in
Any Nepali living anywhere, except those who are direct relatives,
might have hardly got any benefit of Nepali embassy in this planet. Their
first answer is always they don't have budget. non-sense peoples
in these embassy have a lot of money to celebrate Kings birthday
and Dashain and new-years day using taxpayers money and when you
want small help or big help , they easily deny that "they don't
have budget". Lets look what our ambassador will reply on the
possibility of Nepalis missing in Kobe due to earthquake. There
were 120+ foreigners missing in that area. Has our ambassador
released any statements ? I don't think ? I know there are atleast
a dozen of "legally" staying nepalis and overstay is not known. The
embassay don't have any data on how many nepali have entered japan
and how many are legal and illegal. If you want to extend your
passport, they have first question, "do you have visa?", for me
it is humiliating question. But, I have found the reason why they
ask this question ? Because there are two rates for passport extension
one for with valid visa and other for illegally "overstay" nepalis.
Overstay Nepalis have to pay 50% overhead because they are illegal.
What a wonderful rate? Still when I sent my passport for extension,
they didn't send formal receit. Nepali embassy was issuing receit
(such receit is generally issued by small shops without company names- no-header --no-body- no-tail-no- address-----) in Japanese character and by a person who don't know these characters. When I asked for clarification, their answer was same "No budget". I wanted to say, "hey-shits- why don't you print in Nepal and post which is atleast 1/10 the price of printing in Japan". I suspect that the US$60. shouldn't be the price for Passport extension for the country whose annual income is US$180. (1/3rd of income for passport extension?), if so why can't they issue receit ? This is me who insisted on the requirements of receit in any case, but, for other ninty % of peoples they don't issue even that nakali receit, though they want. Some of them are asked to come in person in Tokyo which is known for most expensive night stay, and said "Bholi an-u-nus"? What kind of non-sense are there in our NEPALI embassy ? I know one of NETers (who also receives TND wrote to me) that he had to spent I guess about US$ 500. just to extend passport in the country whose postal service is the most reliable in this planet. What is the meanining of such embassy ? Why should we spend our hard earned money as tax to vouch their stay in Japan or other expensive countries ?
NOt only that, these non-sense money hungry personnel
don't know how to fill-up the passport, I guess they hardly know
the real meaning of passport. My wife's passport contains my
daughters photograph. What they did is they changed her date of
birth when they transferred data from old to new ? Are not they
non-sense. This is not only in that passport, it happened in my passport
also. I know one of NETer also wrote to me that similar
mistake was done by the Embassy in USAmerica, and s/he had to mail
Another story, I remember when my elder brother was in USSR. He
didn't write any letters for 3 years and there was no information about
him. We tried through USSR embassy in nepal and they suggested to go through
our nepali embassy which should keep all the record of nepalis in USSR.
Then we sent series of letters with months gap to nepali embassy in
Moscowa, but, they didn't reply a single, neither they said have any
information nor they can't help. then one day he came alone to Nepal,
he told the horror story of staying 3 years in Russian hospital with
heavy doses of medicine. he said that his friends had requested to
nepali embassy, but, shit peoples in nepali embassy didn't show any
interest and these student friends find the way to discharge forcefully
(hospital personnel didn't allow him to be discharged) and flew to nepal. He says whehter they were experimenting medicine for three years ? Was Nepali embassy useful to any Nepalis in this earth ?
So, my question is whether we really need such emabssy and
personnel who don't do what we expect as Nepali to do from our hard
earned foreign currency? Using child labour to these Nepalis working
in Korea or in gulf or in McDonald in USA + other countries ? who
will check them ?
What these embassy peoples do with our money ?
1. They bring their many relatives and employ illegally in
resturant and to many "3-D" jobs .
2. Export goods to Nepal.
3. Illegally bribe money from Nepalis staying legally or illegally
whenever the sitauation prevails. 4. Try to exploit as many subidha as law allows, but there is no
budget to mail passport (in the case of correction? forget first
time) or to issue 10paise receit. 5. Extract as much salary and share with bosses in Nepal. 6. I have even heard that the Ambassador have to donate some
part of his salary to their political party. This is the one of the
main source of having money by political parties.
So, lets see how the ambassador will tell us his progress in Korean problem
and Kobe earthquake. In Korean case, they will quit like one Taiwanese
minister (?) who was illegally staying in Nepal was released without any
reason because Taiwan threatened to expell all the Nepalis living
in Taiwan. Afterall, it will continue...............
Sorry for long.
P>s. It went long because , outside of my room was raining. Now rain
stopped, I must go home.
suggestion to him is that if he really wants to do something about it, he shoul
d voice his feelings to the proper people or gov't officials in Nepal, who'd be
in a position to do so. Most of the peolpe who have access to TND, I believe,
wouldn't be in such a position, even if they shared Tiwari's "dissatisfaction",
My comments: I think you, Prabin, are wrong here. MY short answer is that
I don't become minister , does not mean that I should n't vote in the
election. We should be optismistic that out of 1000 (?) TND readers some
might be from Ministry of education and some will be there, afterall
they are all so called elites in Nepal ? Some are from BKS itself, and
may be interested to work back in BKS, why not let them learn what should
be the objective of BKS.
>>just because of the fact that they are presently in the U.S.
It is my comment since long time back that lets not forget there
are Nepalis from all 6 continents. Like Khatry jee, who is the one I have ever
seen posting from Africa and Mr. Wagle from SLE, London and many
from europe, after completing their studies there are more chances these
Nepalis staying in non-US conuntries will be going back. So, let us
learn and exchange our views.
About Subject: Re - F2 Visa Denial
y using the combined phrases think I will....". So, there is big different usin
g "I think I will do...." and "I will do....".
I have never applied for any visa to US consulars. But, I had some non-Nepali
and nepali friends who had told their experiences.]
There were two AITian who got admission into USA universities.
These were from same south asian country and the US Embassy in Thailand
denied their visa and told them go to your native country and get it done
from there. But, one third person from same batch and from same country
was issued from Thailand. SO, it was wonderful? Their experience was that
it depends on your luck who interviews you?
These two guys went to their native country and tried there. one of them straight away got and second one was denied. Two were together in the que and there were 4 windows , so these went to two separate window
. The unlucky guy was asked some questions and he honestly told his objective of going to USA and expected period of stay and his home situation. He was by face always serious looking guy. Then he was asked to come after 3 days. After next 3 days he went and unfortunately he went to the window and with the same personnel. He was again denied and he was asked to try again. He tried for four times and at the 4th time he was declared that no need to try and will not be allowed to enter into America. He was topper in his batch at AIT and he also got admission offer from Cambridge University. Regarding the universities
, he was getting best university in his subject i.e. Cambridge, but going to cambridge was certain that he had to return to his native country. He had no interest to return back to his country. He had told to the US consular's personnel the same desire, that I want to work in US and he had many house problem , he had to invite his brother who was at that time school student,,, blah..... and US cons. personnel had not seen any sign of returning homeland after completing his PhD atleast from his mouth. But, the former two guys have said that they will return once they complete their studies. I , now , know that these guys went to US are working in USA. So, the question to asked by US Cons. officer cann't predict and it fully depends on the person who will give the answer. Best way is to promise and show him confident that you will be going back to your country. Two ticket is one of them ?
One of my very close friend from Calcutta was also denied for
two times and finally got it, he wrote to me that he was very afraid
at that moment. He told that questions were almost similar to those
aforesaid two guys , not indians.
Hope it gives you some idea. They were all PhD and now at the verge of
P.S. To. My many friends whom I didn't reply your letters will be replied
on 26th, because I am submitting my thesis on 25th Jan. I just
got the final copy after binding. My series of dead-lines are all over
except two -public hearing- and graduation day, March 27 which is
sayonara day from my Student-life and also from TND et al (?)......
but.........................not sure............ GP.......
Special thanks for Ashu for his interest in my thesis.
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