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The Nepal Digest Thursday 9 Feb 95: Magh 25 2051 BkSm Volume 36 Issue 7

Today's Topics:

        1. KATHA_KABITA
                 Muktak - Saavdaan
        2. KURA_KANI
                 Education - Re: TU and Mathema
                                Re: BKS
                 Labor - Re: Contact Korean Officials
                 Social - Re: TND List
        3. JAN_KARI
                 Book Reviews - Remembering Ascol
                 Matrimonials
                 Virtual Conference on Buddhism
                 Metal Cross Musical Band
        4. SODH_PUCH
                 Request for recipes

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********************************************************************** Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 09:57:14 -0500 (EST) From: Ranjan Panth <rpanth@uceng.uc.EDU> Subject: Mathema To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>

I do not know that much about Mathema (the former(?) V.C.) but I do know for a fact that his daughter did not study in T.U. after graduating from high school (she went to Modern Indian School) and after that she went to Delhi Univ. for her B.A.(during his tenure)
This is not to critisize anything he (Mathema) has achieved but wouldn't this bother you if were a T.U. student ? Yes, I agree that Mathema does not run the whole show, but not trusting your own daughter's education to the same university that you are the V.C. of, just does not seem .....for lack of a better word...confident.

********************************************************************** Date: Tue, 07 Feb 95 11:18 EST To: nepal@cs.niu.edu From: "Balkrishna.Sharma" <23012BKS@msu.edu> Subject: Matrimonial ad

N. Paudel a typical Nepali man 26 yrs of age, 5'7" tall, handsome, has B.S. degree from T.U. and is working towards B.S. in Survey Engineering in a US university, is looking for a bahun or chhetri girl with Nepali values but prefers a green card holder for the US (age 19-25 yrs). If interested in further info please email to 23012bks@msu.edu for indirect contact.I am placing this ad on his behalf upon his request. Only serious inquiries will be appreciated.

********************************************************************** Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:37:05 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: request for recipes

Cross-posted from SCN:
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An addendum to Sue Shine's sentiments: There's an issue in the whole area of pharmaceuticals "learned" from rainforest plants (the earth's great reserve of biodiversity) that there is a form of plagarism going on there, since local medicinal practices are often tapped by the field anthropologists who
"discover" these new pharmaceuticals. So what about these original
"inventors" - the medicine women? I think this is of far greater importance than copying recipes, variations of which probably go to antiquity anyway.
If there were accepted protocols about returning some of the profits of the pharmaceutical industries to the indigent peoples of the rainforests, perhaps it would be a step toward their becoming more sustainable. So I much admire Sue's returning the profits from the sales of indigent recipes in the west back to their source. Beautiful action.

*********************************************************************************************** Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:37:32 -0500 To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Inquiry: Virtual Conference on Buddhism and Human Rights From: "Dr. Wayne R. Husted" <wrh7@psu.edu>

On-line Conference on Buddhism and Human Rights

*The Journal of Buddhist Ethics* E-mail: jbe-ed@psu.edu WWW: http://www.cac.psu.edu/jbe/jbe.html (U.S.A.) or http://www.gold.ac.uk/jbe/jbe.html (U.K.) FTP: ftp.cac.psu.edu pub/jbe (U.S.A.) or scorpio.gold.ac.uk pub/jbe (U.K.)

The Journal of Buddhist Ethics is considering whether to host an on-line "virtual" conference on Buddhism and Human Rights, and invites your comments and suggestions.

The conference would follow the pattern of a traditional academic conference in that it would have a limited duration (perhaps five days to two weeks), papers would be presented, there would be panel discussions, and the opportunity to ask questions from the floor. The main difference would be that since the conference center is a virtual one no-one would make a journey to attend.

In deciding whether not to go ahead with the conference the editors would be grateful for feedback on the following points:

1) Would you be interested in presenting a paper?

Papers will be published electronically in a special edition of the JBE in advance of the conference. Plain text (ASCII) and hypertext
(WWW) versions of the papers will be available. The editors will also explore the possibility of publishing the conference proceedings in book form in partnership with a traditional press. The subject matter of the papers may be of a social, political, or philosophical nature and deal with contemporary or historical themes in the general field of Buddhist Studies. Papers should be around 5,000 words in length.

2) Would you be interested in joining a panel?

The function of a panelist is to comment on the papers presented and participate in general discussion about Buddhism and human rights. Panelists may be academics, politicians, representatives of human rights organizations, or individuals who have knowledge or experience of human-rights problems and abuses in Buddhist cultures.

3) Would you "tune in" to the conference proceedings?

Whether or not you present a paper or join a panel you are welcome to
"attend" the conference free of charge. The conference will be a public one on the list JBE-L. Anyone can "attend" the conference by subscribing to the list, and can unsubscribe when the conference ends. Comments can be made, and questions put to the authors of the papers and to the panel. All comments from the "floor" will be moderated to minimise duplication.

So far as we are aware this would be the first on-line conference of its kind, and the editors would like to assess the degree of interest in such a project before deciding to proceed further.

Please send any comments you might have to:

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and NOT to the list on which this message appears.

Sincerely, The Editors Journal of Buddhist Ethics

**************************************************************** Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:38:56 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: request for recipes

Cross-posted from SCN:
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Ashu. Namaste.

I'm not sure what you maintain is plagiarized. I have the Rombauer's
"Joy of Cooking," and, believe me, none of the recipes come from there.

The title? Unfortunately, the word cluster "Joy of" is probably not copywright-able, nor (prob) was effort made to do so. Witness Alex Comforts many & various Joy of...sex practices.

Plagiarism and copywright violation hinge as I understand it on the concept of "intellectual property" and in Canada, from where I write, this is given (too) slight weight and legal emphasis...ie the creators of a cultural product have to fight urgently to retain control of their product and any profit derived from it.

So----if these recipes ARE "stolen---ie, taken verbatim or virtually so, without permission and without crediting, then these recipe collectors need to be exposed. I'm not disputing this---it's highly probable the recipes were found, taken, etc. The trick is, were the recipes in the public domain?

It seems a hard but important issue to resolve in Nepal, where pirating audio and video cassette----or the importation of pirated properties, with NO profit going back to the original creative artists---is such a prevalent practice.

I do like to use the recipes...but now, I'll probably feel terribly guilty. One of the projects I had in mind, incidently, when i lived in Nepal, was to collect recipes from the village women who were my friends and publish them with
"profits" to return to the Women's committee. Still think this is a grand idea for someone.

************************************************************* Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:39:58 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: request for recipes

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shine@CAM.ORG (Sue Shine) writes:
>I'm not sure what you maintain is plagiarized. I have the Rombauer's
>"Joy of Cooking," and, believe me, none of the recipes come from there.

Yes. You are right.

>The title? Unfortunately, the word cluster "Joy of" is probably not
>copywright-able, nor (prob) was effort made to do so. Witness Alex
>Comforts many & various Joy of...sex practices.

Yes. You are right.

>Plagiarism and copywright violation hinge as I understand it on the
>concept of "intellectual property" and in Canada, from where I write,
>this is given (too) slight weight and legal emphasis...ie the creators of
>a cultural product have to fight urgently to retain control of their
>product and any profit derived from it.

>So----if these recipes ARE "stolen---ie, taken verbatim or virtually so,
>without permission and without crediting, then these recipe collectors need
>to be exposed. I'm not disputing this---it's highly probable the recipes
>were found, taken, etc. The trick is, were the recipes in the public domain?

As far as I know, there exists nothing like "public domain" in Nepal as people understand it in North America. So, I doubt those recipes were ever in public domain. Well, Mrs Majupuriya could have taped Radio Nepal's
"Mahila Karyakram" every afternoon, and transcribed the recipes . . .;-) I don't know!

But since I cannot prove any wrong-doing on her part, I, as a compulsively impulsive book-buyer, will let the Majupurias collect their royalties for now.

>It seems a hard but important issue to resolve in Nepal, where pirating
>audio and video cassette----or the importation of pirated properties,
>with NO profit going back to the original creative artists---is such a
>prevalent practice.

Ke garne? Not only is that problem prevalent in Nepal, but also just about everywhere in Asia. [Hey, anybody out there wanna go to law school to study copy-right laws and policies? I see tremendous applications of that in Nepal.]

>I do like to use the recipes...but now, I'll probably feel terribly
>guilty. One of the projects I had in mind, incidently, when i lived in
>Nepal, was to collect recipes from the village women who were my friends and
>publish them with
>"profits" to return to the Women's committee. Still think this is a grand
>idea for someone.

A Nepali friend of mine (who, I must admit, is an excellent cook) is now hard at work in preparing a Nepali cookbook. She hopes to publish her book by the end of 96.
But your idea should be taken up by other long-term visitors to Nepal.

Bon Appetit

ashu
Ashutosh Tiwari tiwari@husc.harvard.edu

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*********************************************************************************************** Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:41:12 -0500 To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Looking for Chang recipes From: kali@primus.paranoia.com (kali)

I'm interested in collecting some recipes for Chang, Nepali homebrewed beer. Also, any other recipes, for all sorts of Nepali hombrew, or Sherpa Tongba, would be greatly appreciated. Or, if anyone knows a good cookbook with these recipes, please let me know. I'm anxious to get a batch of Chang going in my fermenter...

thanks in advance, kali@paranoia.com

********************************************************* Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:44:25 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Himalayan Sherpa :: Any experiences ?

Cross-posted from SCN:
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rabbit@xs4all.nl (rabbit) wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Some time ago I came across a brochure from an organisation
>called "Himalayan Sherpa Europe". It advertised as an organisation
>which takes care of your own planning for an active holiday in the
>Himalyan region. Himalayan Sherpa claims it works like a "front-end"
>for different local travel organisations in the Himalayan, and there
>for more cheaper compared to the normal tour-operators or travel
>agencies.
>
>Has anyone outhere have any experiences (good or bad) with the
>travel programs offered by this organisation ?
>
>I'm thinking about spending a week or so in the Himalyan to do some
>walking.
>
>
> Bye
>
> Arno
>
Who needs travel agencies to go to Nepal? Maybe I was lucky, but when I was there in last November I got the idea that was very easy to anyone to get around without any "multi-national" travel agency. There are plenty of travel and trekking agencies, namely in Katmandu, Pokhara and Chitwan (the most touristic places).

My advise to anyone going to Nepal is to get the air ticket and do there all the plans and reservations. A walk of 2 hours in the Tahmel area of Kathmandu, where you can contact randomly half a douzen travel agencies from the tens there exist there, will be enough to get a good idea what you can do, especially if you have so few time.

One week is a little too short to stay in Nepal. One spends a lot of time going from a place from another: the average speed on the roads is something like 30 or 35 Km/h and the frequency of the buses is rarely more than one a day, so prepare yourself to spend a whole day in every trip you make.

Well, I'd like to have the time to tell you some things more...

Hope you enjoy the trip! J. Mario Pires - Centro de Fusao Nuclear *

********************************************************************** Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 15:06:47 -0500 (EST) From: Ranjan Panth <rpanth@uceng.uc.EDU> Subject: BKS To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>

I have been reading the postings on BKS, and even though I don't go through each and every argument thoroughly I have the the feeling that the supporters of BKS just don't get it. Shyam Bahadur has been looking for the answer to a couple of simple and straightforward questions;
(in Shyam Bahadur's words)

        "Why should I, Shyam Bahadur, have to plough the fields while Ram
        Bahadur goes to BKS ? Why can't we both go to the same school
        here in Manang ?

        Almost everyone here in America knows how alumni help fund various programs at universities. If BKS grads really think that their school is essential why don't they help in the financing. Approximately 15 years have passed since the first class graduated. Why should the rest of Nepal pay for extravagance ?
        Ashutosh seems to be in a no win situation. How can one argue when people just don't (or refuse to) understand ?

********************************************************* To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu Subject: voice our concern Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 15:55:35 EST From: Amrit R Pant <arp@MIT.EDU>

Here is a list of addresses and numbers of the officials that we can voice our concern against the treatment of nepali workers in South Korea. Please feel free to write, call or fax your concerns.

*Prime minister: Mr. Lee Hong-Koo
Office: 77, Sejong-no, Chongno-Ku
Seoul
South Korea
Phone: (02) 720-2006

*Minister of labor: Mr. Lee Hyung-Koo
Office: 1, Chungang-dong, Kwachon City
Kyounggi Province
South Korea
Phone: (02) 503-9700
Fax: (02) 503-9771
Telex: 24718

*South Korean ambassador to USA: Mr. Gong Ro Myung
Office: 2450 Massachusetts Avenue N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20008
USA
Phone: (202) 939-5600

*Amnesty International National Office: 322 8th Avenue
New York, NY 1001
USA

*Amnesty International Northeast Regional Office: 58 Day Street
Somerville, MA 02144
USA
Phone: (617) 623-0202

*********************************************************************************************** Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 12:10:00 PST To: Nepal Digest <nepal-request@cs.niu.edu> From: "Khanal, Bushan" <@wdni.com,> Subject: Long BKS Discussion

          For those who joined this discussion later, the BKS discussion started as a discussion on the validity of educational spending where BKS was used as an example but now it has turned out into a lively but at times confusing discussion between BKS grads who as Ashutosh described as, defending on purely Pavlovian grounds and the rest of the community expressing their own economic and personal ideas.

     Personally, I think that the discussion is very healthy and there is a lot to be learned from it as long as we are aware of what we are arguing about. Right now, there seems to be more than one question floating around the discussion table which is not making the discussion any easier to understand. The topic(s) being argued about here seem to be:- "is BKS making its money worth", "are BKS grads contributing in their community as it was hoped", "is it right to spend all the money at just one place such as BKS as opposed to spending it differently", and finally "is it right to spend on BKS if students are coming to US/...UK/...../AUSTRALIA... to study." Most of the people seem to agree with the first two points and I don't see any need to be cluttering the electronic media for their patriotic defense. The points we cannot agree on seems to be more on the philosophical side of BKS which involves the final two topics. The confusion here are due to the fact that people are trying to validate their defense for BKS or the government's educational policy using the first two topics as examples. Although BKS grads have definitely contributed a lot and deserve the credit, this discussion is not about how much of a contribution BKS grads are making or if the school is doing what it was supposed to be doing etc... but it is questioning the government spending methodology as the best alternative for a country like Nepal with a poor economic condition such as ours. The question is simple "Is BKS the best alternative as an educational system in a country like Nepal and should the money be spent centrally in schools such as BKS or GBC or should it be distributed evenly over the country." REMEMBER the question in support cannot be answered by merely giving examples of what BKS has achieved nor can you abolish BKS by pointing out few of its weakness. Let us look and see if we can find a solution that is more efficient than BKS and maybe we can find some viable alternatives to BKS. If we can understand that, then we will have a well balanced, well understood and a thoughtful discussion. I don't think that BKS is a perfect alternative but remember BKS is a living-breathing system where we can and have seen good the results over and over again. Merely voicing an opinion against it will not be sufficient.

Finally, I think BKS students have made a lot of good points where the points have stood up for itself without the support of the fact that the student voicing it was a BKS grad. As far as calling the whole act Pavlovian, I don't if that is really correct. I guess it is natural to react to anything that offends peoples personal pride (schools being one) and if you use such reasoning, you might have grounds to call such a reaction Pavlovian but you have to hand it to the BKS students, they sure have been well conditioned. Another + for BKS.

Bhushan

********************************************************************** Date: Wed, 8 Feb 95 10:41:54 +1030 From: Deepak <drajopad@physics.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Privacy ? (Open for discussion)

I am wondering why some of the TND members do not wish to publish their list? Last month I was looking for some nepalese living in Boulder. I sent my request to Rajesh and he said that TND has changed its policy of releasing the member's list for the sake of the member's privacy. After that I went through possible nepalese surnames in Boulder using finger command. I was lucky to find many nepalese with their email addresses. Now, there is Mosaic. We can see even photos, their areas of interest and so on. What is the meaning of privacy here? I think TND members has to open their mind.

Anyway, I am just expressing my view. I understand that there will be many Gorkhalis who will not agree with me. Let us see what other Gorkhalis think about our privacy in internet.

If there is something to be done, I am quite happy to contribute my time to TND.

Deepak

********************************************************************** From: rrauniya@polar.Bowdoin.EDU (Ranjit Rauniyar) Subject: KHOJ_KHABAR To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 21:17:56 -0500 (EST)

KHOJ_KHABAR

hello folks,

if i am the 'n' no. of guy saying TND is a great way to feel at home, so be it!

anyway, i just got to the us in september. i'm trying to locate my old buddies. if anyone from Dr.Grahams School, Kalimpong (Dist. Darjeeling) and/or The Air Force School, New Delhi., Pomona and Haverford Colleges happen to be reading this - it'd be great if we could get in touch.

till i hear from you!

dhanyabad!

ranjit rauniyar Bowdoin College. ME e-mail: rrauniya@polar.bowdoin.edu

********************************************************************** Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:18:33 +0500 From: nshresth@capital.edu (Nischal Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: HI ashu/1kel3jiy

Hi,
        I have just joined the Nepal digest. For days I have been seeing the argument on Budhanilkantha. Who is this Ashu? I know Dilip very well. I am not in favour of any one, but can you please stop writing about B.K.S.? Otherwise, I will also write whatever you want forever.
        Do not get mad at me for this. This is my suggestion.
                        Tata.

********************************************************************** From: Shailesh R. Bhandari <sbhandar@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Subject: MUKTAK To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:45:07 -0500 (EST)

SAAVDAAN

              Baaje le vaanne garthe
                   Kahaa gaera faaloo
                            Khaaera badi vaeko dhaan.
              Tara ahile naati ko paalaamaa
              Vuk mari ko khataraa chha,
                            Sabai janaa saavdaan

***************************************************** From: ponta@sas.upenn.edu (Pratyoush R. Onta) Subject: Samjhana To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu (tnd) Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:55:54 -0500 (EST)

The following was published in The Independent of 22 June 1994. It was intended to be an autobiographical satire. Pls let me know if it also speaks for others who remember Ascol.

Remembering Ascol

Pratyoush Onta

For those of us who grew up mesmerized by that noble dream of becoming doctors and engineers to serve the nation, Ascol was a rite of passage. The rite came in the form of two years spent in the premises of the campus located at one end of Thamel after you had finished high school but before you could go abroad in a 'seat' provided by some scholarship plan. I too was lured by the siren of physical engineering at the end of high school in 1981. Suffering from the aftershocks of the pre-Referendum student movement, the Tribhuvan University could not find space for my cohort in its college campuses until April 1982. It was then that I first went to Ascol and for the next two years, I spent many an hour there steeping my brain with a variety of so-called scientific knowledge.

A dozen years later, many of the exciting moments that I experienced in Ascol have been trashed (in Macintosh-speak). Some have been relegated to the backwaters of my memory. Others are retained in a fragile montage. But if novelist Milan Kundera is right when he says life is a struggle against memory, then I must try to remember Ascol as a sign of life in me.

Each day in Ascol was a challenge for me. The first challege of the day started in my room. What to take for the classes was always a rather difficult thing to decide. All the books needed in a bag and be called a
'bookworm' by my close friends or a folded copy in the back pocket of my jeans and be labelled a 'tourist' by the Physics teacher? More often than not, peer pressure would get the better of me and I would only take a single notebook and a blue ball pen to Ascol.

The next challenge for me used to be: will the first teacher show up for his class? The bell used to ring at 12 noon, the teacher would show up and the Nepali class - necessary even for science padne wallas - would start. One day the teacher was telling us the tragic story of Basain. As he was about to tell how Rikute and Jhuma fell in love with each other at first sight, he left the classroom for no apparent reason. It was only much later that we discovered that the teacher had left because of the annoyingly loud drumming of the desks by the students sitting in the second row. I could never be sure if the classes were meant for a full 45 minutes.

On another occasion the second period teacher was missing and nobody knew her whereabouts. How to spend the next 45 minutes then became a challenge. One option that was there was to guff with the pretty dames of the 'bio' group. However, the risks were great. The next day, the campus could be full of rumours about how Pratyoush was in love with a certain Mainya or how Shishir tried to win Priya's heart. Romance was hardly something that I excelled in.

On one such khali period, a friend suggested that we play hide and seek! Without asking if we are a bit too old for this game, we all thought that it was a good idea. However, before we could actually begin, Mahendra, the most practical-minded student of the class, pointed out that there were no places to hide in Ascol. The classrooms had open bars for windows, the laboratory was closed, the lavatory stank, and the library was being used for the teachers' meeting. If there was no place for hiding, there was no question of seeking. Therefore, the idea had to be abandoned five minutes after it had been conceived.

On yet another occasion, a teacher showed up in class a full 25 minutes late and started taking attendance. Roll number 141, a man who has now become the only engineer-hero in the Nepali movie industry, was busy talking to his friend. Just about when the teacher was finished recording the absence of number 185, a big voice was heard in the classroom, "141 sir." "Write it on a piece of paper" said the teacher and so did 141. By this time, 38 minutes of the class was over and Mr. Gravity, as the students called this rather overweight Physics teacher, began his lecture:
"Archimedes' principle states that when..." The rest of the lecture was straight out of pages 46 - 49 of The Advanced Level Physics. Therefore there was no reason to pay any attention to him.

Late during the first year, a group of my classmates went to the chemistry lab to do their practicals. To their surprise they found it closed. "For what reason?" they asked. "Today is Women's Day and all the madams are absent. There isn't any gas either. Therefore, there will be no practicals today" explained the lab boy. "Hurrey" said my friends as they went home. However, those of us who had practicals in physics had nothing to rejoice over for the majority of the teachers there were
'sirs.' We went to our respective tables and began the experiments. At 5 pm, the practicals were over and the students had gathered around the teachers to receive their invaluable signature on the practical sheets. Everybody seemed to be busy justifying the large errors in the results of his/her experiment. "The conditions are so terrible that we got the value of the latent heat of fusion of ice as 43 as against the correct value of 20" explained Sangita. A veteran teacher, commenting on Pramod's cooling curve graph for wax said: "The melting point shows a constant temperature till infinity." Pramod had no excuse for that.

The viva-voce questioning started. Rajendra was asked: "What is the difference between the focal length and the distance between the pole and the principal focus of a spherical mirror?" He quickly replied: "There is as much difference between the two as the difference between you and your face in a plane mirror." Ever figure that out? I had no time to do so. It's time to go home then. Science could wait but my stomach could not.

I guess I still remember Ascol - in fragments - as a sign of life.

********************************************************************** Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 13:32:57 +0500 From: nshresth@capital.edu (Nischal Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: METAL CROSS

Hi netters,
        Do any one of you know the Nepalese band called "METAL CROSS?"
        Please do contact me if any one of you know.
                        Bye.

Hi netters,
        Do any one of you know Esha Shrestha, who is currently studying in West Sussex, England? I want to know something.
                Bye.
                E-mail: nshresth@capital.edu

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