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The Nepal Digest Wednesday 1 Feb 95: Magh 18 2051 BkSm Volume 36 Issue 1

  Today's Topics:

        1. Letter To The Editor
                 KISS - Subas Shakya, Ph.D.
   
        2. KATHA_KABITA
                 Hasya Muktak - Desh
                 Poem - Man a Wonder, Nobody Knows

        3. KURA_KANI
                 Health - Sex, Prostitutes and AIDS
                 Education - Re: BudanilKantha
                              - A Vote of Thanks
                              - Tribhuban University
                 Environment - 10+ Ways to Develop Nepal
                 Politics - Re: Nepali Workers in Korea

        4. JAN_KARI
                 Want to send money to my former Student
                 Nepali Cookbook
                 Engagement Congratulation

        5. KHOJ_KHABAR - Looking for Y.R. Joshi
       
        6. TITAR_BITAR
                 Immigration - Visa Restrictions
                              - Visa Denial, Help!
       

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********************************************************************** Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 01:35:20 -0500 (EST) From: Dilip Parajuli <parajuli@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: Budhanilkantha will have a place To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu>

Dear Editor,
        
        This is in response to Ashu's "dissatisfaction" regarding Shyangjali(s) having been able to come to Budhanilkantha( through government/foreign aid misguidance), "enjoy" the alleged A-level program and then find their way out to AIIMS, IIT, Melbourne, Oxford, LSE, Princeton,Chicago,Harvard,Stanford or whatever(this is not a commercial from Bud. School). Pathetic, Budha "stole" such opportunities from other schools this year and in the previous years. But this correlation has very little resemblance to the "misuse of scarce national resources".
        Sixty lakhs rupees each year(that's quite a lot, I agree); but 250 scholorship students get the full share, comes 2000 rupees per month per student. That's not much considering the cost of high school-education in the so-called descent schools: a kathmanduite-family spends at least 2000, lot more in some cases, for tuition only. Budha-student gets rooming, boarding and supplies and tuition(including textbooks, writing materials)for that 2000.
        Why should a Syangjali be prevented from capital education and then in turn foreign-education while others do not care about the national development? Simply put, I don't give a damn about economic efficiency if one says " Budhanilkantha is too expensive to reward rural people for their academic exellence". As a matter of fact Syangja does have a descent high school and I don't believe that it is because of Budha's existence that this high school produces (a bitter fact around the nation) P-sippers and G-smokers. Should you blame Budha's existence for thousands of Pahadis' muglan(India in this case)-prasthan and their teenage wives' "behal" back at home? Or for their diversion to Arabic, Korean, Malaysian labor-force and more importantly the torture they get while there? Or for 800 females, from a single village- ICHOK in Sindhupalchok, at the brothels of Bombay? These tamangis are suffering not because Budhanilkantha has grabbed their share of educational opportunity but because "Rana-Sahebs"[we were told on our anti-AIDS campaign at Helambu] have encouraged this flesh-trade.
        I don't know much about Mathema's public-policy sharpness(only that he is not too popular at TU) but I hope he is not the kind of person as Dr. Tana Sharma- SLC Nepali text writer and well known critic- who questioned the validity of Budha's existence back in 1984 when he was denied the salary an expatriate (in this case British) received for the post of school-head.
        I don't say the school is beautifully managed at present but it has nothing to do with the original objectives its creators had in their minds. And I say, the goals weren't limited to " helping the poor" but also to creat a "Bhanjyang" to receive a mix of cultures, traditions, languages, their achievements in the respective fields, to "develop" their localities.
        Privatisation has its own point but I won't be convinced until someone comes up with good-enough effects (of privatisation) to couterbalance the special features the school currently bears. It is ironic that criticism should come from those who have been able to get education at one or more of those `elite' schools (the category does include Budhanilkantha). Then great difference, of course, is that many of such are Kathmandu day schools with no scholorship program and , as such, can only cotribute to Nepal's greatest structural weakness and greatest source of socio-political injustice- namely the socio-economic disenfranchisement of the great majority of its rural population.
        Budhanilkantha was a genuinely liberating force under the Panchayat system and would be a tenable project under the democratic government- communist government properly so-called. The budget is heavy compared to other institutions, but until the people of Humla, Jumla, Kalikot and Bajura count for as much in the minds of the leaders or the
`future' leaders as those of Kathmandu, claims to the high moral ground of democratic and free-market rectitude will continue to seem very hollow and Budhanilkantha, at least as it has been for the last 20 years, WILL still have a place.

Dilip Parajuli.

********************************************************************** From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu From: tuladhar@unixg.ubc.ca (Anil Tuladhar)

                MAN A WONDER, NOBODY KNOWS

He claims himself, the best creature
        Never peers through own nature All the time, everywhere ignorance he shows
        Why he is born here, nobody knows

Every event shows its own reason
        So flowers bloom in a certain season He just enjoys all lily and rose
        Why they are bloomed here, nobody knows

This wonder coming from darker cave
        Now wonders to undulate on deBroglie's wave Uncertainty since Heisenberg shows
        When, where what happens, nobody knows

He lands on moon approaches Mars
        Formulates laws for various stars But near Black-Hole even Time slows
        What is causing everything, nobody knows

-ANIL

********************************************************************** From: Shailesh R. Bhandari <sbhandar@garnet.acns.fsu.edu> Subject: Hasya Kabita To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 14:37:52 -0500 (EST)

                               DESH
                
                 Malaai mero desh ko maayaa chha
                 Kinaki desh ma prakriti ko chhaya chha
                 Ani malaai mero desh ko maaya chha
                 Kinaki,
                 Taauko vari chaya nai chaya chha.
    

***************************************************************** Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 09:36:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Jacqueline R. Francis" <jfranci@emory.edu> To: The Nepal Digest <NEPAL@cs.niu.edu> Subject: Letter to the editor

Hey, it's me again--that annoying bedeshi who needs a courier. I'm still trying to send a small amount of money to one of my former students in Surkhet District, mid-west Nepal. Probably can deposit the sum in a Kathm. branch of her bank. I'd appreciate the help of anyone going to Nepal in the next couple of months. Thanks Jackie
(404) 321-6821

******************************************************************* Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 10:04 EST From: ATULADHAR@vax.clarku.edu Subject: Problems with Visas for Nepalis To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu, h430p6@edv1.boku.ac.at, sharad@forestry.auburn.edu,

VISA RESTRICTION FOR NEPALESE US-VISITORS
===========================================

The US consul seemed to much harder than before in restricting visas to Nepalese.

On given Jan day, the Consul is not packed with Nepali applicants as before. Only 20 were there wherease last year I saw 60+. Perhaps the Rs 1000 application fee has dissuaded those who apply for visa 63 times in the hope they will just tire of such persistence.

Of the 22 applicants, only 2 were given visa: a student with $19000 scholarship and another Fellow with $ 25000 fellowship.

I saw all kinds of rejections this year. Someone showed about Rs 7 lakhs of money and he was told young people had very little social connection back home so they were likely to stay in US.

One very capable medical professional lady who spoke excellent english with demonstrated confidence was re jected because the "international" medical organization that sponsored her had done so to one another Nepali who did not yet return in the prescribed time. She was told, "your application is fine but unless you can demonstrate that the person sponsored by your organization is physically back in Nepal how can we believe this organization's vouchsafe?"

Another was well-heeled business man who got a "international leo of the year award" in NY in August but he went to US on a visitor visa in September and instead enrolled in a language school and then a regular school in NY and still cannot speak good english. The consul demanded to know what he told the immigration authorities at the port of entry when he showed up after the award ceremony for his purpose of visit. He could not articulate his answer and he did not give reasonable counter to the implication that he may have misled the authorities, so his application was refused.

Another person had a american sponsor who was going to take a Nepali to cure him of his ankle swelling but despite the physical presence of a white face he was refused. Some brought their white face source who got polite answers why they were refused.

Outside the consul office, a source in the USEF said the visa granted was reduced 30% this year, USEF monitors differenct forms of academic exchange of US Nepali scholars.

Another anecdotal information was than 3 years ago those medical practitioners who passed the US medical licence test in Karachi and the telephonic interviews used to be welcomed with open arms as cheap fillers for general physicians in the state and federal funded medical welfare programs. This year at least six such Nepali qualified doctors have been refused visa.

Well, the US consul seems to be acting under the rules that require them to treat all potential applicants as potential immigrants and it is upto the applicant otherwise. Only in the past years there was a lot of "good-faith" interpretation of such rules with increase access to computerized data bases and increasing anti-immigrant sentiments in the \merican populace, the Consul is viciously efficient and since his interpretation is the last decision and no framework is laid out for determining individual profile, there is at least the theoretical possibility for grand abuse. Story still abounds that one can buy visitor visa from US consul nepali employees for Rs 70,000 and student visa for Rs 4 lakhs.

Visa restrictions have been so badthat among the 520 diversity visa "chittha wallahs" in Nepal, only 20 have filed applications because the others could not find some green card or citizen sponsor who would guarantee their economic vitality until they find a job. Kind of a Catch 22, aint it.

A word of advice for all thsoe contemplating a Nepali visit: if your transcript is less than A average, or you have transferred to a lesser grade or program, or have taken semester leave for work, or have changed one's original purpose of US visit (e.g some come as tourists and end up as students, these guys are computer black listed and neither do they get return visas nor do their spouses or any other inivitess get visas no matter how legal they are in US. There are a lot of these Nepalese with truncated academic career.

While the rejection of a US visa is personally traumatic to individuals and families who have put in years of efforets putting together transcripts, moneys, tickets, and dreams to be shattered before the US consul's NO, there is growing evidence that a smaller and smaller portion of the Nepali undergrads who make it through the us consul door fumble into economic realities of US's 50 times value of Nepali rupees and screw up their studies. I think Nepali undergrads are as smart as they come along but they are extremely underequipped to handle the financial stress that comes from the extreme poorness of our counttry even if they are the richest buggers in Nepal.

From: ATULADHAR@vax.clarku.edu

Sex,Prostitutes,and AIDs
==================================================================================================

A vegetable vendor who rents an apartment in our cousin's place n Ason told me that they are increasing competition from new vegetable vendors who have been forced to take up vending vegetables rather than their bodies in Ratna Park because of the increaseing perception that Nepalese prostitutes have aids and are not worth the sex.

Interestingly a study done by Brown University team of demographers and public health professionals (Messr Shyam Thapa,Ph.D; Pushpa Bhatt, Ph.D; Sushil Nyeupane, Jean Braker, and Matt Fredman), 1 percent of the commercial prostitutes are said to be tested positive for HIV virus.

47% of the Nepali prostitutes have some kind of venereal disease, mostly involving vaginal discharge of blood and mucus; 37% had vulvular inflammation; 24% had actual sores on their genitalia, and 4% had urethral infection.

28% had no sexual disease.

Naturally 50% of the prostitutes had less than high school education Most prostitutes were under 21, unmarried, having begun in sex at 16.

40% of the prostitutes never use a condom while 2 % always insist on a condom. The main reasone why condoms are not used is because the clients object to the deadening sensation of sex with a condom.

Most of the prostitutes are in the business in supplement income from their Dickensonian labor in the foreign dollar increasing garment and carpet business. Most of the Nepalese women are non-Kathmandu resident and the study makes clear that this scale of blatant prostitution in Kathmandu is a recent phenomenon.

Although formal studies are not available, there is also increasing report done by NGO called ABC, for instance, of HIV infected Tamang prostitutes that are sent back from Bombay annth other brothels in India to die and infectedother poor Nepalese in the health-service deprived Nepali hills of Sindhupalchow and Dhading.

From: ATULADHAR@vax.clarku.edu

KATHMANDU IS CLEANER
====================

Believe it or not Kathmandu is much cleaner this year than last year.

No longer does one sees ofal and decaying detritus overflowing the german yellow garbage containers but one sees much smaller and more frequent blue containers that are easier to be reached to throwin garbage and lot of Indian trucks made into garbage trucks. All of them have a Nepal-Bharat double jhanda as a sign of mutual cooperation (read, nepal begging India, cause rich King Bire is too kanjoos couple of crore for the very town he lives in).

There is talk in the valley media of a dumpside behind the Dakshinkali mound where we have picnics, called Maudole or Seti Gaum panchancyat. The UML have promised some crores of development aid to mitigate harmful effects and the site is supposedly fre3e from water resouces for kathmandu populace and the Air Transport have no objection as it did to an earlier site. There There are reports of local people getting damn mad of "not in our back yard" and some ward level communist leaders have been forced to resign.

Whahappens, the waste disposal concern of Kathmanduites is receiving top leve level concern from the communist leadership. Word is that future Kathmandu Mayer Keshav Sthapit is being availed a helicopter to hunt for garbage sites. Garbage disposal figures in the party manifesto of top things to do. The previous Congress govt of Girija was perecieved to be decidedly anti-Kathmandu, primarily to thwart Ganesh Man panel from getting any credit and that included spiting Ganesh Man's political alter ego PL Singh.

On an early morning, I took a walk around New Road and Tundikhel and I was actually suprised to see Municipality sweepers sweeping the streets and sidewalks of dust and garbage and the garbage trucks actually coming topickup garbage and surprise, surprise, with the hoar frost settling the night smog, I actually smelled the fresh smell of grass and fresh vegetables the Thimi jyapus had set shop from Bir Hospital to Ratna Park.

Ameliorative steps to counteract air pollution is also apparent and they are bound to have incremental positive effects. These include: the banning of Vikram tempos to New Road despite theri hadtal; the raising of tariffs on import of reconditioned TOYOTA corrollas; the increased presence of "newer" Indian made taxis (when did you last see a taxi under 20 yearsin Nepal?) supposedly more effluent friendly and politically correct forthe Indian auto producers; the greater frequency of effluent testing, a big inconvenience to the taxi drivers who allege that even the Hartridge effluent machine is a reconditioned machine that can be made to read passable number for Rs200-300 ghus.

One also sees increasing presence of traffic police in every street corner, increasing a sense of security and enforcing more one-way driving. One wondersif pollution actually increases with more driving, it certainly distributes effluents more widely.

The steep price of taxi transport will certainly be a economic disincentive to use auto vehicles,. A Paknajol-Jawalakhel trip cost Rs 125 on meter, last year, it was 45 ruppees.

There are also some reports of cooling the macro economic boom of Kathmandu. Already there are reports of decline in rate of tourist increase, the export earnings from big labour users: garment and carpet industry. All this could translate into a cumulative decline in the rate of effluent increase in

************************************************************* Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 14:55:27 -0500 (EST) From: William Pusateri <pusateri@oberon.pps.pgh.pa.us> Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - Jan 27, 1995 (13 Magh 2051 BkSm)

Gentlemen, I like the way you have placed the opening pages of TND at the end of the contirbuted articles. I always thought the opening pages were too long anyway. Now if someone wants to see the articles it is not necessary to scroll through so many screens. Yet if there is interest in reading them they are now placed at the end. A very practical change.

*********************************************************************** Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 21:32:49 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: 10+ ways to develop Nepal [part II]

Cross-posted from SCN:
--------------------- twong@hal.com (Tony Wong) wrote:
> I think corruption is a big problem in most poor underdeveloped countries.
> Nepal is not the only one. I have been to Nepal recently and it is poor.
> I am a Chinese myself and there were many many corrupted Kings in our
> history and we got rid of them by revolution most of the time. You will have
> to pay a high price to fix these problems.
>
> Tony Wong
>
Revolution is certainly one way to 'clean out the cupboard' but there are better ways. Nepal is lucky enough to now have a democracy. Nepalese politicians with a genuine interest in the future of their country will ensure that a good proportion of their budget is spent on education and training. This is the only really effective way of dealing with many of the ills of developing countries. An educated people will not allow themselves to be ripped off by unscrupulous and corrupt officials.

Grahame Smith Dhamy u thad Namaste

******************************************************************** Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 21:33:07 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) From: jana@pogonip.scs.unr.edu (Jana Dunn)

My sister-in-law, Mira, (my husband's sister) has been unable to get an F-2 visa; perhaps someone who has been in this situation can offer some advice.

Mira is in Nepal living with her mother-in-law. Her husband is living with us in the U.S. and is on an F-1 visa. He has been here since last summer.

Mira has applied for the visa twice and has had it denied twice. The third time she attempted to apply she was told that her application would be rejected and that she shouldn't waste her time and money.

The staff of the consular post has told us that Mira's visa application has been rejected because she does not have sufficient ties to Nepal to ensure her return. We disagree and feel that she and her husband do indeed have strong ties to Nepal and would return to Nepal at the end of his studies. Mira, in fact, would probably return sooner due to family obligations.

Mira submitted the following with her application:

        a sponsorship letter from us and our bank statements
        a copy of her husband's assistantship contract
        I-20
        a letter from her husband describing his familial obligations
        a letter from the univ's international student advisor
        a letter from her husband's counselor

Our congresswoman FAXed an inquiry to the embassy; we were told by the embassy staff that the inquiry has been answered but we have not received the answer yet.

Where do we go from here? Can we appeal the decision? Is there a governmental office that can assist or advise us?

Please respond via email. I will summarize the responses if appropriate. If you wish to follow up to this posting, please follow up to alt.visa.us unless you think the content of your posting would be of interest to soc.culture.nepal readers.

Jana Dunn Subedi jana@scs.unr.edu

**************************************************************************** Date: Sat, 28 Jan 1995 21:34:59 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) From: shine@CAM.ORG (Sue Shine)

This is a great cookbook IN ENGLLISH, but good luck finding at your friendly neighborhood bookstore:

The Joys of Nepalese Cooking

author: Indra Majpuria, M.A., B. Ed., Formerly, Lecturer in Educatin 10 A Professors' Quarters Tribhovan University, Kirtipur, Kathmandu

pub S. Devi Lashkar (Gwalior) India

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*********************************************************************************************** Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 01:25:50 -0500 (EST) From: Ashutosh Tiwari <tiwari@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: Engagement To: Nepal Digest <nepal@cs.niu.edu>

        More than 150 Nepalis -- students, scholars, professionals, their families and their children -- who make up the Greater Boston Nepali Community (GBNC) in the Boston, Mass area
        
                CONGRATULATE
        (one of their "most likely to succeed in life" community members)
        
                Anup Raj Joshi
          on his recent engagment to
              Miss Bhawana Sharma

        The couple plan to get married in Kathmandu in May 1995, shortly before Anup's graduation from the Harvard Business School's MBA program.

        GBNC urges Anup's old friends and acquaintances (from St. Xavier's High School Kathmandu, Harvard College, HIMAL magazine, Singapore and elsewhere) to send him e-mails at ajoshi1@hbs.hbs.harvard.edu

                saying:

     "Anupji, badhhai cha hai, badhai cha!! Dampatya jiban falos-fulos"
           (if you are over 30)
 
                OR

     "Anup, la la cha cha moj cha!! Ham-lai bhoj kahilay khoo.wa.u.nay?"
           (if you are under 30)

                :-) namaste ashu

****************************************************************** Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 15:28:16 +0900 From: Gyaneswor Pokharel <g44329a@nucc.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp> To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu Subject: As per Ashu's request ? To post this article in coming TND issue?

Dear Rajpal and Ashu,

        My Newsreader quit slow to catch the SCN postings, and it always comes to Nagoya after several days of Time laps. Ashu is fortunate that I could save his earlier posting, based on his later requests to SCN readers. So, here is the article which you could not get published in TND.

Regards.

GP

RE: Nepalis in Korea Article: 3663 of soc.culture.nepal Newsgroups: soc.culture.nepal Subject: Ashu's comment Date: 20 Jan 1995 16:00:28 GMT Lines: 89

Forwarded message from Ashutosh Tiwari:
-----------------------------------------------------------

I still have to get over my shock at the gross mistreatment of Nepali men and women in South Korea. On one hand, it's regrettable that desperate economic conditions back home compel many otherwise able Nepalis to seek DD (Dirty, dangerous) jobs abroad at niggardly salaries. On the other hand, it's all the more heart-wrenching to hear about Nepali men getting beaten up and a Nepali woman getting raped in a foreign country.

        I don't know about you, but as a Nepali, I was both humiliated and angry to learn that 13 helpless Nepalis had to parade around some Korean cathedral with signs saying "Please Do Not Beat Us".

        I am not sure how Nepal/Nepalis or TND readers should respond to this kind of tragedy, but surely we should not let this sort of happenings pass by without our STRONGEST condemnation? Those Nepalis may be poor and desperate, but surely they do not "deserve" to be raped and kicked around by some callous Korean manager?

        I think it would be some sort of an emotional balm for all of us if we could express our outrage in SOME Way. If you feel about this as strongly as I do, here's what I have in mind:

        1) Write a letter to the South Korean Prime Minister, expressing
         our collective outrage at the mistreatment of Nepali workers.
        [I would be happy to draft the letter, and send it to the
        Korean Premier next week). Please suggest whether I should send
        it on behalf of the Nepal Digest Family -- editors and subscribers,
        without putting the subscribers' names and e-mail addresses or
        whatever.

        2) Send a copy of that letter to the South Korean Ambassador in
        Washington DC.

        3) The idea here is not to get political and blame Korea. The
         idea is simply to demand justice for Nepali workers in Korea, and
         condemn the rape incident and the gross mistreatment of Nepali
         workers.

        4) I realize that writing a letter may set a precedent for other
        activities later. But, hey, when injustice happens to Nepali
        citizens abroad, with the foreign media playing up the story to the
         hilt, should we -- Nepalis and friends of Nepal -- NOT express our outrage at the whole thing through some well-followed means?

        5) Sure, the letters may NOT achieve anything concrete; but should that be the reason for NOT writing them in the first place? Is our collective silence the right answer when really bad things are happening to Nepalis abroad? [Cynics may say that bad things are happening to Nepalis all over the world anyway, and may wonder whether we should be writing letters on all of their behalf also. But such an argument is just a stupid argument, not a relevant point for discussion here!]

        6) What do you all think? Is it a good idea to write letters to the South Korean premier and the ambassador on behalf of the editors and the subscribers of the Nepal Digest? Or, would that not be proper? PLease send your concerns to TND.

        Remember, the only condition for evil to triimph is for 'good' people to do nothing!

        Lastly, let me explain that personally I have no political agenda or hidden personal motives in wanting to write the letters to the South Korean Premier and to the Ambassador on behalf of the TND. I should also explain that I have no relatives in South Korea; nor do I have anything against South Korea too. I just happen to be a concerned and outraged Nepali . . a private citizen of Nepal, . and I hope you are as concerned and outraged about this whole thing too! That's all. Of course, some of you may dismiss this as a naive effort -- but that is all right . . . even a naive effort is better than a cynical silence!

        Please send your comments to TND as soon as possible. I'll start drafting the letter by next Thurday, Jan. 26 '95.

namaste ashu

****************************************************************** Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 05:54 EST From: ATULADHAR@vax.clarku.edu Subject: Re: The Nepal Digest - Jan 9, 1995 (25 Push 2051 BkSm) To: NEPAL@cs.niu.edu

Bimal Kesary Poudel
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This is in response to Dr. Khagendra Thapa's request for info n contact address of Bimal Poudel.

Bimal Poudel is back in Institute of Forestry or shortly due back, since I did not meet him. His wife's family in Paknajol say he is back, and his campus at Hetauda also say he is back while administrators in Pokhara have arranged for his promottion to Reader. He is definitely ruled out as a IOF faculty.

Bimal left for Malaysia in 1987 to pursue his PhD n forestry (his personal objective) on an offical MS slot although he had a MS in forestry from Pakistan. Hehas been there since. I guess 7 years is normal for a phd, Many thought he would not return.

Bimal does not have an internet address as internet are available to only 20+ mercantile customers and the Academic "Fellows" of the moribund RONAST. I asked Sanjeev Rajbhandary of Mercantile why Nepalese in Nepal never reply on internet, he said the cost was $3.5 a minute, the fax is cheaper!

Regards, Amulya Tuladhar
<Atuladhar@vax.clarku.edu>

*********************************************************************** Date: Sun, 29 Jan 95 18:39:07 CST From: sbshah@gumbo.bae.lsu.edu (Sanjay B. Shah) To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: Re: Green Card Lottery Info. (Jan. 19 posting ?)

Dear Editor,

        I would be grateful if you could kindly repost the above subscription by Siskind (an attorney) in the coming TND posting. My printer garbled the last page that dealt with the info. to be sent and the address. If you think the info. is important enough to merit a second posting, you could publish the whole text or you could just send me the last two pages (of Jan. 19's bulletin). Sorry for the inconvenience and thanks. Sanjay sbshah@gumbo.bae.lsu.edu

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************************************************************ Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 20:14:11 -0500 From: rshresth@black.clarku.edu (RaJesh B. Shrestha) From: rajendra@coos.dartmouth.edu (Rajendra P. Shrestha)

Since there have been some discussions here about economic liberalizations and free market policies, I thought that the following
 newsarticle (taken from misc.news.southasia) might be of interest to some SCNers (not that it reflects my views though).

Indian Express, Jan 9, 1995

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* Cracks emerging in policy establishment

BOMBAY - Significant divisions seem to be emerging among the top India policy makers in the government on the impact of economic liberalisation on the poor.
        In a remarkable letter to the Finance Secretary, Mr. Motek Singh Ahluwalia, and others, the Indian Executive Director to the IMF, Mr K P Geethakrishnan, has warned of the adverse consequences of liberalisation.
        His letter says that "in free market politics, there is no place for compassion or sympathy" for the poor, while there may be much at stake for the western countries pushing these policies.
        The letter was sent from the IMF office in Washington on Jan 4, 1995. Mr. Krishnan had actively supported the economic liberalisation in his previous appointment as the Union Finance Secretary. He was Mr Ahluwalia's immediate predecessor. But now he has suggested that India should learn from the turmoil in Mexico due to free market policies.
        He has pointed to the demands being made in Mexico that some of those who pushed for liberalisation - especially former President Carlos Salinas de Gortaribe tried for treason. Economic liberalisation, the Mexican Opposition has claimed, has resulted in the impoverishment of the country.
        Mexico was held up as an example of successful economic policy reorientation under the guidance of IMF, World Bank and the US. But it is fast moving towards becoming a stark example of market failure and inappropriate economic policies.
        Indian economic policy makers have been besotted with Mexico's achievements joining the NAFTA and pushing policies that had the approval of the IMF and the World Bank.
        Hence for example, the talk of the need for India to join APEC or ASEAN trade blocs and their uncritical acceptance of patronising neo-liberal advice from all and sundry. Even the Prime Minister of Singapore, no bigger than an urban tenement block compared to India, had the gall to prescribe how India should run its economy.
        However, what is becoming clear now is that in Mexico, the belt tightening that has been going on since the 1980s has not improved the lot of the poor. Indeed, it was on New Year's Day last year, that the Chiapas rebel broke out in Mexico, led by an organization calling itself the Zapatista Liberation Movement.
        At that time, it was dismissed by the Mexico policy makers as one of those minor explosions that could happen anywhere particularly among Mexican Indians in the interior. Their wishful thinking blinkered them from seeing the Chiapas rebellion as an indication of the Mexian economy itself heading towards a catastrophic crisis.
        Almost, exactly a year later, the West is now preparing yet another rescue package for Mexico - an $18 billion exchange stabilisation fund. The Indian Executive Director at the IMF in his letter on the Mexican crisis says: "The Opposition parties have indicated that they would like Salinas tried for treason - for pursuing policies that projected an image of economic stability during his final months as President.
        "To qote Zedillo, Mexico's development demands that we recognise that we are not a rich country, but a nation of serious needs and shortage. We can not therefor identify ourselves with patters of consumption in wealthy societies that have already resolved the disparities that still afflict us".
        The rest of Mr.Geethakrishnan's letter suggests that he at least thinks that there is a clear lesson for India in the Mexican experience. Mr.Krishnan does not seem to be convinced that the free-market policies started with the blessings of the US and other western countries in Mexico has done much for the poor.
        He says that the speed with which the western countries have once again put together a rescue package for Mexico is dictated by their own stakes in that economy.
        India, too, is under external pressure to further the policies of globalisation and the letter seems to suggest that there is a need to pause and re-examine these polices before extending and intensifying them further.

********************************************************************* Date: Sun, 29 Jan 1995 23:13:34 -0500 (EST) From: Ashutosh Tiwari <tiwari@husc.harvard.edu> Subject: A Vote of thanks To: nepal@cs.niu.edu

        My most sincere thanks to Laba Karki for his most recent defence of the set-up of BKS. Since I have no interest in laying out my arguments for the FOURTEENTH time, let me just say this:

        Thank you Laba for your most excellent points. I am sorry to have been spouting "crap" all this time without "[having understood] what [I] was talking about." Please do pardon my "ignorance".

namaste ashu

p.s. What a wonderfully easy world it would be if all the ideas I disagreed with could be called -- quite evocatively -- "crap". Then again, that's something to wonder about on another cloudy night . . .

********************************************************************** Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 05:58 EST From: ATULADHAR@vax.clarku.edu To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu

Tribhuvan University: Problems and Directions
==============================================

[The following is extracted from an audience former VC Mathema had with the Chancellor Birendra]

Major Problems

1. Runaway enrollment growth [ seven fold in 15 years] 2 under financing and low levels of internal resource mobilization 3. Impact of the above two on quality of education.

[Note, it is very significant he did not mention politicization of the TU hierarchy, a major problem perceived by faculty and students who see it as the major threat to academic integrity.]

Measures Taken

Enrollment:
        1. Regulate admission
        2. Entrance Exams
        3. Allow each Campus to set the enrollment target
        4. Encourage affiliated (private) campus to take in more
                students.

Underfinancing:
        1.Obtain donor's assistance e.g WB $ 20 million and UNDP $ 600,000
        2.Encourage cost recovery by hiking tuition, lab fees, fee for
                itemised services e.g. Medicine campus charges separately
                for MD students.
                
        3.Encourage consultancy servicese.g. Department of Geography

        4.Encourage other resource mobilization e.g. leasing land and
                real estate by Shankardev and Fine Arts Campuses
        5.Cut Expenditure e.g
                Fire First class Administration officers
                Discourage unnecessary tours of Agriculture campus
                Remove all acting positions
                Privitize cafetaria
                Discourage new recruitment

        [Missing is the suggestion to fire a lot of old log professors
        like former Dean Saraswoti Rimal who do no teaching but just
        grace 1-2 commisions that do not solve anything and there are
        a lot of these occupying fat salaries and priviliges with no
        productivity. I guess the VC is timid in front of the Professor's
        Union of attracting the charge of being political.]

Improving Quality:
        1. Conduct exam on schedule
        2. Increase teaching days from 90 a year to 115 a yer
        3. Check forged academic certificates: 600 frauds
                exposed in Gorkhapatra but govt has neither
                the machinery nor motivation to punish them.
        {Most of these forgers are high school teachers, the
        vanguard of grassroot communist activity in Nepal.}
        4.Establish links with other university e.g Forestry
                link with Yale
        5.Conduct inservice training of faculty in research
                e.g 600 teachers given research seminar

FUTURE DIRECTION

Enrollment Problem:
        1.Widen entrance exam levels to all levels and faculty
        2.Phase out Certificate program in 10+2 system

Underfinancing:
        1.Increase cost recovery e.g 16% of operational budget for 95.
        2.Explore much enhanced fee structure for technical campuses
        3.Encourage sustainability plan e.g forestry campus now charges
         for free electricity and residence use
        4.Set minimum teaching loads and implement to cut overtime
        (a toughie, old guys teach less 3 classes a week if they tach at all
        and new recruits teach upto 28 classes a week)

Quality Improvment:
        1.Activate newly appointed Deans to monitor quality
        (HA ! Deans monitor political activity to ensure stability of
        status quo other wise they just have fun, frolic, travel, and ghus)

        2.introduce 3 year Bachelor program e.g. Forestry campust has a 4 year

Implement Full-Fledged Calendar:

Note The outgoing VC Mathema is credited with bringing some order to TU by hiking the fee structure double, abolishing subsidy at the TU cafetaria, and retrenching the Special Class officers in the Administration at significant political costs. He has also tried with some success to make sure the exams are held on time and students finish their program in prescribed time.

Given how deeply subsidized and entitled the TU population of faculty and students are, the idea of making them pay for their service was wholly new and he has been an iconoclast. It will be a long day before the TU becomes an economically rational entity.

Girija brought Mathema a World Bank official and a former campus chief to instill some financial discipline and this he did. let us see what the new VC, rumoured to be Kamal Krishna Joshi, Kamal Prakash Malla, or Bal Krishna KC (a biologist, a linguist, and a geographer) will do.

summarized by Amulya Tuladhar Clark University

************************************************************** Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 08:13:36 EST From: Subas_Sakya_at_USPRMG41@internetmail.pr.cyanamid.com To: nepal@cs.niu.edu Subject: KISS

Dear Editer,

    As a novice recently introduced to the internet, I have been reading books and articles about the internet. I came across a term called KISS and I thought it may be relevant to the TND participants regarding the discussion that's currently taking place. This is a direct quote from the book called 'Crossing the Internet Threshold' by Roy Tennant, John Ober and Anne G. Lipow.

    "KISS: 'Keep it simple, stupid' is good advice to follow when posting a message to an electronic discussion. State your problem, opinion, advice, or whatever simply and directly. Assume that the people reading your message are just as busy as you are and are just as likely to be frustrated rather than inspired by long-winded, self-important postings. The respect of your colleagues is much more likely to be won by a judicious use of the medium than not."

    P.S. I would like to commend Mr Ashutosh Tiwari and his colleagues for their effort in voicing their support for the Nepalese peoples plight in Korea. In addition I sincerely hope all the Nepalese associations in the USA and abroad would take part (hopefully have taken action!) making all the members inclusive in this effort.

    In addition I would like voice my support for ALL who have contributed to the success of this news digest, especially Mr Rajpal Singh. Thanks.

Subas Sakya Rockland County, NY

************************************************************************ From: "U.P.Rai" <MSRSDUPR@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk> To: Nepal@cs.niu.edu Date: Mon, 30 Jan 1995 18:57:52 GMT Subject: Mailing Address

Hello everybody,

Namaste!

I am looking for E-mail Address of Mr. Y R Joshi studying in Illinois State University. I would appreciate if anybody could supply it in my following address.

Sahayogko Laagi Dhanyabad

Uddhav Rai

Manchester University

Email: MSRSDUPR@stud.man.ac.uk

 
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